A Biblical Examination of Pentacostalism 2


Yesterday we talked about speaking in tongues. The way we dealt with it will satisfy Fundamentalists, who are used to analyzing things from the Bible. It won’t satisfy one Pentacostalist out there, so I’m going to explain this for another three days or so, then quit and go to something else.

Pentacostal Objection #1 – You say tongues will cease. But the same verse says knowledge will vanish, and I still know things.

Answer – Explained that yesterday, you either didn’t make it that far, or didn’t like what I said. It’s not going to change things at all.

The word knowledge there is γνῶσις Gnosis, to know. Their are other Greek words for knowledge, and they continue straight through to the Enternity. Greek words and English words are not the same – it is a series of sounds that connect to a concept, and Koine Greek is astoundingly precise. I can use the words “Recognize” “Understand”, “Know” and each is a different word for a different concept, but in a similar grouping or construct. The WORDS are different, but the concepts similar.

One Greek word for knowledge is Oida, which can be found in Rev. 21:22. Note the word Knowledge is not used there, because the translators of the King James were astoundingly learned men. They understood rules of Greek that aren’t even TAUGHT anymore!.

So, will knowledge pass away? No.

But word of knowledge will. and already has, and that’s what 1 Cor. 13:8 is speaking of.

Any Pentacostal who tries to tell me there’s no such thing as “word of knowledge”, brother, I’m not buying it. You all use it whenever someone claims to know everything about you. It’s not working.

If you don’t believe me, let me ask YOU a question…

Do you REALLY believe that when the New Heavens and the New Earth are created, there is no sun, no temple, no moon, no darkness…

…that you’re going to be lying around, drooling? “Duhhhhh….”

What does that mean to you that you won’t have knowledge??? You just won’t know anything anymore? Like someone with an overly enthusiastic lobotomy?

Obviously not.

The Bible says tongues will cease.

And they did.

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A Biblical Examination of Pentacostalism


A lot of this was done earlier under my 21 part study of Word Faith. Many pentacostals list themselves as Pentacostal, and say they’re not Word Faith or “positive confessionalism”.

But there’s VERY little attempt in Pentacostal churches to deal with making sure the doctrine of the church is correct. I say this, because they wouldn’t stay Pentacostal very long.

One thing I’d read from David Cloud and a few other teachers such as John Macarthur, was that Pentacostals place experience over doctrine. I’d read that Pentacostals, when challenged that the Bible teaches something else, will invariably retort, “Then you need to put away your Bible and trust your feelings!”

I always figured it was bombast, until I experienced an exchange that said exactly that!

First Rule of whether you’re in a Biblical church or not – if you cannot prove your church’s doctrine from the Bible, then you need to throw that doctrine out.

The standard methodology of Pentecostalism is to tell a sinner who needs the Lord, “You need to get saved.”

Absolutely no problems there. At all. Agree 100%.

“Pray this prayer…”

uh-oh. A little worrying, but I’ll keep my mouth shut. Let’s see what happens.

“Now, after your saved, you need to seek a second, subsequent blessing, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.”

Stop. Back up the bus, boo boo.

Find me that anywhere in the Bible. Where do we see a second subsequent blessing?

Pentecostals will point out a single verse, but I’m going to take a minute and lead up to that.

There’s only 3 passages where people in the Bible speak in tongues. Acts 2, Acts 10, and Acts 19.

When I first found that out, it blew my mind.

Because when I first thought I was saved, I attended a local church, where people seemed EXCITED about God. That’s why I joined. It was Pentecostal, and Word Faith. Indeed, it was an offshoot/church plant (kind of) from a megachurch that was word faith.

They taught me that in Acts, every time someone was saved, they spoke in tongues. They put a lot of pressure on me to speak in tongues. I tried it.

Later, I began to learn Hebrew and found that what I was speaking all along was, well… nonsense. That’s okay, they said… you have to speak nonsense!

Why?

Because if you know what you’re praying, the Devil can hinder it. And so the Spirit prays in a heavenly language that you can’t understand so Satan can’t hinder your prayers!

My reaction should have been to look that up in the Bible. That can’t be found in the Bible at all.

1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Acts 2:1-8 (KJV)

The Apostles and Disciples were all speaking in known tongues. “Tongues” in the Bible means “languages.”

γλῶσσα of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication a language (specially one naturally unacquired) :- tongue.

Glossa means tongue, language. Speaking in tongues means speaking in languages.

So for me to say to someone, “Hola, Como Esta Usted???” is speaking in tongues.

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. 3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. 5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter: 6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do. Acts 10:1-6 (KJV)

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) 37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Acts 10:34-46 (KJV)

For those who glossed over the Bible verses trying to get to Philip’s point,… go back and read. You’ve got your priorities wrong! The word of God is silver purified seven times. Read it.

A Roman gentile… is praying to God, and seeking God. He is told to send for Peter, a Jew. Peter comes with Jews to Cornelius’s house. Get’s halfway through a Gospel presentation. Cornelius begins speaking in tongues.

Peter makes a long speech. What is the essence of that speech?

“Oh wow! God can save Gentiles, too!!!!!”

Read it. Isn’t that what it says?

How do they know? Cornelius begins speaking in a language that the Jews know.

If I’m telling you about how WONDERFUL Wordsearch 11 is and you begin to foam at the mouth and “oogle loogle lailailai!!!!” I’m going to dial 911, because I’m afraid you just had a seizure or something.

So, Cornelius is speaking in a language, testifying about Jesus Christ. He just manifested the Biblical expression of speaking in tongues – speaking in a language you do not know, but someone else present does.

Where do I get that from?

Acts 2, of course. And Acts 10. “they heard them…. magnify God.” To hear them magnify God means they were just speaking a language that the Jews knew, but didn’t expect a Roman to know. Hebrew or Aramaic. I’d joke and say Yiddish, but someone would take me seriously.

Bottom line… they weren’t saying “Bubblyaida.”

Let’s go to the third and LAST time anyone in the Bible spoke tongues.

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. Acts 19:1-7 (KJV)

Okay! There you go. That’s the only times anyone in the Bible spoke in tongues.

And incidentally, we’ve uncovered the only passage that can be shown to be a “second, subsequent blessing” if you’re reading it wrong.

Let’s read it correctly.

Disciples.

Whose?

John’s.

Not Jesus’s. They KNEW about Jesus, because John spent his ministry prophesying about Jesus, and incidentally, to make the people ready, encouraged them to mikveh. To submerge themselves under water for ritual purification.

Paul tells them about it. And gives a Gospel message – you should believe in the one John prophesied of, Jesus Christ.

Analysis… were the disciples of John saved?

No.

Paul gives a Gospel message there – that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

They were then baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Not a mikveh, a self immersion, but a burying and resurrection of the dead, as Christian baptism is – being immersed by someone else.

They then speak in tongues.

Analysis – who is present in all three times people spoke in tongues?

Answer – Jews.

Who is not present at almost every Pentecostal speaking in tongues?

Same answer – Jews.

That’s kind of a problem. Tongues are a sign gift, for those who do not believe. And it was a minor gift. Prophesy was the more encouraged.

Each time someone spoke in tongues in Acts, it serves a purpose. Acts 2, that Jesus is Messiah. Acts 10, that Gentiles can be saved. Acts 19, that Paul is truly an apostle. That subject was hotly debated in the early churches, because he was not present during the earthly ministry of Jesus. And others rose up, claiming to be apostles, and they disputed Paul’s apostleship. Where do I get that? Ephesians and Colossians and… in several epistles, actually.

Bottom line about tongues is this… this is the Bible, not Philip. Philip can be wrong. The Bible cannot be wrong.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 1 Corinthians 13:8 (KJV)

the gift of prophecy will fail.

The word of Knowledge will vanish away. This does not refer to understanding, but rather to the divine gift that Peter experienced in the case of Ananias and Sapphirus.

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. Acts 5:1-5 (KJV)

οἶδα is found in quite a few verses in the Eternity…

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. Revelation 21:22 (KJV)

but λόγος γνῶσις cannot be found after this verse…

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 1 Corinthians 12:8 (KJV)

So the divine spiritual gift of word of knowledge vanished away very quickly.

Why? Did its job. It established the fact that the Apostles spoke truth, and that God was with them.

So knowledge in 1 Corinthians 13:8 does not refer to understanding or recognition, but rather the divine gift of Word of Knowledge.

So what’s left…

Tongues will cease.

The Word Faith Movement Examined 11


A note – on this page I provide hyperlinks to check the veracity of quotes I will give. These hyperlinks are only for the purposes of verifying my sources. I do not endorse everything on these websites. Use caution.Central to the Word Faith movement is that of positive confessionalism. In other words, the theory claims that you have the creative force to speak something into existence.

The theory is complicated, which should be a clue it is not of God. The roots of it go back to Smith Wigglesworth, Finis J. Dake, Mormonism and Mary Baker Eddy/Christian Science.

Why do I include the last two?

Because essentially, the movement claims at its basis the following unScriptural doctrines – the source of those teachings is in parentheses:

  1. Faith is a substance, like Gravity (E. W. Kenyon)
  2. God spoke Faith, causing the Universe to spring into being. By His positive confession of faith, the Universe created itself. (E. W. Kenyon / Dake)
  3. God reproduced Himself on earth, creating a race of Little Gods. (Mormonism)
  4. When we sinned in the garden, we gave the legal right to the world over to Satan, and God had to – pause – retreat from this world. I added the pause, because there was no way I was going to write out such an uninterrupted blasphemy. (Kenneth Hagin / Mormonism)
  5. Because God supposedly is not in our Universe, He supposedly can do nothing unless we give Him permission to do it. (Hagin/Kenyon)
  6. we lost our legal rights ot be gods in this world, because Satan owns it. Our nature was exchanged for Satan’s nature. (Mormonism)
  7. Jesus, the perfect man, had to die and go to Hell for three days, He became sin itself on the Cross, and had to suffer in Hell for three days. (Kenyon)
  8. In Hell, Jesus became the first born-again Man, and through His newly restored Godhood, left Hell, paying the way for us to enter heaven. (Kenyon/Hagin)
  9. Since God’s will is for us to be healthy and wealthy, the Gospel is the healing is ours when we permit it. And if we speak money into existance, it will happen. (Christian Science / New Thought)
  10. We are the same as Jesus, the first Born Again man – except we will do mightier works. After all, are we not gods? (Mormonism / Christian Science)
  11. And since the Bible says “Ye will do greater things than me…”, the average Word Faith practitioner is BETTER than Jesus! (Hagin / Copeland / Price)

The answer is… no, not by a long shot! And anyone that can espouse this nonsense will not be entering Heaven. Notice they are worshipping a false god, a false Jesus, a false Gospel. I’m going to prove it.

The false god of Word Faith, notice, is not the God of the Bible.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:1-5 (KJV)

Notice the God of the Bible creates the Universe from nothing. He is omnipotent, meaning “all powerful”.

The false god of Word Faith has to use existing forces, “Faith”. He does not have all power. He must use what someone else made – who it is is unknown. and in the Word Faith universe… the universe makes itself. It has to, in obedient response to god’s positive confession of faith. Who does their false God have faith in??? Obviously someone higher than himself. The god of the Word Faith movement is not the God of the Bible.

The God of the Bible dwells in Heaven, but is everywhere at once. He is omnipresent.

The false god of Word Faith dwelt on Earth when he made it, and had to flee when “Legal rights” were given over to Satan. He now dwells on a planet. No doubt the Bible is named Kolob, as the Mormons teach. So far, the entire creation of the world account as given by Word Faith teachers is amazingly reminiscent of those given by the Book of Mormon.

Where did these “Legal rights” come from? Where were they created? Where did, according to Word Faith teachers, Satan come from? They don’t say.

Who enforces these legal rights the Word Faith teachers talk about? They speak of a “Supreme court of the universe…” Who is that? Who is so powerful that God has to obey their legal decisions?

translation – there are other gods, each with their own planets. Right out of the Book of Mormon. I’ll be providing these quotes later on, trust me,

That’s not the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible does not retreat or flee. The God of the Bible is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. All powerful, all knowing, everywhere at once.

The Word Faith teachers will say things like “Jesus, the perfect man.” I don’t know who they’re talking about. It’s not the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. And as Justin Peters repeats in his A Call To Discernment videos, “If it is a different Jesus, it is a different Gospel, and a different Gospel cannot save.”

The Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible is more than a man. The Lord Jesus Christ is God in human flesh, Emmanuel. He is eternally pre-existent. The Lord Jesus Christ existed before the creation of the universe.

the “Perfect man” Jesus sounds more like the Christian Science “Jesus”. Perfect, the first “born again man.” That’s crucial to the word faith teachers, as it makes the miracles the Lord did available to all of us… for a love offering of $1,000 or higher. I actually have a video of a Word Faith teacher dismissing a $1,000 offering as “nothing – we’ve got people on Welfare vowing that – and paying it!!!”

They don’t always come out and add the last part, but if you listen closely, it’s in there. Always indirectly hinted at. More often than not, they come out and say it. “send me a thousand dollars.” We’re years away from Marjoe Gortner, who confessed in his documentary, “Just ask for ten dollars in a cookie jar. Because there’s at least 5 little old ladies in every city who’s got five dollars in a cookie jar, and they’ll send it to you. You can make $5,000 in a month doing that.” Greed has pushed the Wird Faith teachers into asking for the $1,000 right now – because apparently if you have 5 people in every city with it, and you’re in 40 cities on Cable – well, you’ll make $200,000 a month! Marjoe is probably thinking to himself he got out way too soon.

The Word Faith movement Jesus is a false Jesus, another Jesus, as the Bible says. To quote Justin Peters, “Another Jesus, another gospel.” The Bible says that anyone who preaches another gospel is to be accursed. In other words, they themselves are not born again.

What is faith?

1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 (KJV)

Indeed, this is the verse taken out of context and misused by Word Faith teachers.

Heb 11:1 εστιν δε πιστις ελπιζομενω υποστασις πραγματων ελεγχος ου βλεπομενων

The word we’ll be dealing wtih here is not πιστις Pistis, Faith, but rather… υποστασις Hupostasis (For some reasn, the diacritic is not showing up…. sorry… it really starts with an H sound).

Hupostasis, (Hoo po Stah sis) is a compound of two Greek words Hupo and Histemi. Hupo means under, through. Histemi means to stand, to be in place, established. Indeed, Apostasy comes from a usage of Histemi meaning “to move from where you stood”, “To deviate from the correct standing”. I mention this on purpose, by the way.

So Hupostasis would then mean to be established in understanding. “Confidence” or “Assurance” would be another word for it.

I’ve listed the verses where this word is used. The bolded word is Hupostasis.

4 Lest haply if they of Macedonia come with me, and find you unprepared, we (that we say not, ye) should be ashamed in this same confident boasting. 2 Corinthians 9:4 (KJV)

17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 2 Corinthians 11:17 (KJV)

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Hebrews 1:3 (KJV)

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; Hebrews 3:14 (KJV)

The Bible is not, then, saying “substance” in the way that electrons are a “Substance”. The concept is that “Faith” then would be something you could hold in your hand, like water.

This is an incorrect view, as you could plainly see for yourself by examining Hupostasis in context in the other 4 verses it is used in. If the Word Faith teachers all had the Websters 1828, like Fundamentalists do, they would know it means:

“The essential part; the main or material part. In this epitome, we have the substance of the whole book.”

now faith is (The essential part) of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (paraphrase, to give understanding to the words used in the authorized version)

When you say your Word Faith god is speaking in faith, you are in essence (that word essence right there would have been Hupostasis in the Greek, by the way) claiming that your little G god had confidence in something other than himself. In other words, the god of the Word Faith movement had to have a God of his own! Meaning the Word Faith movement god was a created being, who exalted himself to the place of God.

And indeed they are Biblically correct here – there is indeed a created being who exalted himself to the place of God:

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:13-14 (KJV)

The Bible actually gives the name of this created being in the previous verse, and even tells what the result of his “positive confession” that he is a little god will be!

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Isaiah 14:12-15 (KJV)

Let’s test this further. We have a created being who exalts himself into the place of god, and gives a positive confession that he is a little god. Does he teach others the same thing?

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:1-5 (KJV)

So the very first cardinal doctrine of the Word Faith movement is refuted right off the bat!

I’m going to further show that the Word Faith movement is incompatible with Christianity, and indeed is the antithesis of Biblical Christianity.

Biblical Christianity says that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, the wages of sin is death, God commendeth His love in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, and those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. That’s the Romans Road, a boiling down of the Gospel into a few seconds. It places the burden on Man, in that we are sinners, and the wages of sin is death. God gave us a way to salvation through the propitiairy sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. By repenting of our sins and our sinful ways and turning to the Lord, confessing His name and pleading with Him to save us, we have faith in the Lord to save us by His grace. That’s the Gospel.

Word Faith says that god created the world by the speaking of his mouth, but we, little gods all, gave away the legal right of this world to Satan. So the god of Word Faith, unable to interfere in this world without our permission sent a man named Jesus to die and go to Hell and be punished for us. while in Hell this man Jesus became born again, and resumed his original nature as a god. So we, when we are born again, are little gods again. The god of the Word Faith movement requires our mighty permission to act in this world, and when we speak this faith substance, we create just as the Word Faith god created – and when we pray, we give this powerless god the ability to act in this world.

Biblical Christianity gives God the glory, and boasts of the mightiness of God. Word Faith gives man the glory, and claims god is powerless. It is a different God, a different Jesus, a different Gospel.

The Bible warned that false teachers would arise, bringing false gospels.

29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Acts 20:29-30 (KJV)

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. 2 Corinthians 11:3-5 (KJV)

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV)

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18 (KJV)

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 2:22-23 (KJV)

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3 (KJV)

7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:7-9 (KJV)

In light of everything we’ve examined, it’s time we started making conclusions, uncomfortable ones. We’ve shown the Word Faith teachers are teaching something that has to be considered another Gospel. The Bible is clear what we must do to any that teach this false gospel.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:10-11 (KJV)

The question now is… do most Word Faith teachers deny the Godhood of the Lord Jesus Christ? That is the other component that positively would identify them as the antichrists spoken of in these verses. (All quotes were found on Let Us Reason unless otherwise noted. Some additional quotes were found in the E-Book Heresy Unmasked by Basilius M. Kasera)

“why didn’t Jesus openly proclaim Himself as God during His 33 years on earth? For one single reason. He hadn’t come to earth as God, He’d come as man.” Kenneth Copeland

“Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.” Kenneth Copeland

“When His blood poured out it did not atone.” (Kenneth Copeland) http://www.alan-vincent.com/wordoffaithmovement.htm

“Don’t be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you’re God -the more you get to be like me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God, I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in me.” Kenneth Copeland, quoting what someone named Jesus supposedly told him.

“The trinity is a doctrine of the devil.” William Branham.

“Jesus is not God.” Paula White

“the trinity is of course God the father God the son God the holy Ghost. We have to be careful because religion has us sometime thinking we have three different Gods. You know there’s God here ..hey holy ghost- hey Jesus…its God one God one faith one baptism not three Gods not three faiths not baptism’s everytime you mess up,one. God the father, one God, three functions one and different functions God functioning as a father- God functioning as a son -God functioning as the holy ghost.” Creflo Dollar

“I believe in one God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I believe these three have distinct and separate functions so separate each has individual attributes, yet are one. I do not believe in three Gods.” T. D. Jakes

“God the Father. ladles and gentlemen, is a Person, and He is a triune being by Himself, separate from the Son and the Holy Ghost… God the Father 1s a Person, God the Son Is a Person. God the Holy Ghost Is a Person. But each of them is a triune being by Himself. It I can shock you- and maybe I should- there’s nine of ’em… God the Father, ladies and gentlemen. Is a Person with His own personal spirit, with His own personal soul, and His own personal spirit body. You say, 1 never read that.’ Well, you think you’re in this church to hear things that you’ve heard for the last fifty years? Ladles and gentlemen, this thing is in my book and was tested by three theologians… it’s all in the Word…” Benny Hinn

“Teachers of the Trinity teach that Jesus is Jehovah; they have no scriptures to back this up, and why don’t they believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that Jehovah is Jehovah?” Gwen Shamblin

“God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, God three in one. The Holy Ghost is no different than Jesus and Jesus is no different than the Holy Ghost …water you see it… if you take that to a scientists and ask it to analyze that and tell you what it is. He won’t tell you its water he’ll say that’s two parts hydrogen one part oxygen.That’s H2O now if take this and boil it and I capture the steam and I take that to the scientist he won’t say its steam he’ll say its H2O if I take this and put it in the freezer and take it to the same scientist hand it to the scientist say analyze this for me he won’t say that’s ice he’ll say that’s H2O they’re all H2O but there different manifestations of the same thing.” Rod Parsley

“You can’t call us ‘Jesus only,’ as some have. We do not deny the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit, We believe Jesus Christ is wholly, fully, absolutely and completely God. But no one isgoing to put us in the position of saying there are three Gods.” Tommy Tenny, author, United Pentacostal Church

Do Word Faith Teachers deny the atonement on the Cross? Yes. They insist the atonement had to be paid in Hell.

“Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the thieves could have paid your price.” Frederick K. C. Price

“Physical death would not remove our sins. He tasted death for every man – spiritual death. Jesus is the first person ever to be born again. Why did HIS spirit need to be born again? Because it was estranged from God.” Kenneth Hagin

“It wasn’t the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin … anybody could do that.” Kenneth Copeland

“Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him…He became sin, so sinners can be righteous in Him. He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God.” Benny Hinn http://www.alan-vincent.com

“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only” Kenneth Copeland

It’s really time we stopped calling these men Christians. Most of them have denied the Godhood of the Lord Jesus Christ. If they don’t repent, they’re getting left behind in the Tribulation, and they’re going straight to hell at the moment of death.

The Bible commands us to separate from any who deny the Godhood of Jesus. We are to mark them and avoid them, not even wishing them Godspeed, lest we share in their punishment. How can two walk together, unless they be in agreement? Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Hagin, T. D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar, and Myles Munroe are heretics, who teach blasphemies and damnable heresies, denying even the Lord which bought them. Unless they repent, they face a terrible future in Hell.

Care for the poor


7 If there be among you a poor man of one of thy brethren within any of thy gates in thy land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother: 8 But thou shalt open thine hand wide unto him, and shalt surely lend him sufficient for his need, in that which he wanteth. 9 Beware that there be not a thought in thy wicked heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand; and thine eye be evil against thy poor brother, and thou givest him nought; and he cry unto the LORD against thee, and it be sin unto thee. 10 Thou shalt surely give him, and thine heart shall not be grieved when thou givest unto him: because that for this thing the LORD thy God shall bless thee in all thy works, and in all that thou puttest thine hand unto. 11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land. Deuteronomy 15:7-11 (KJV)

You know, this is a verse I really don’t recall hearing T. D. Jakes, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, Kenneth Hagin, Benny Hinn, or Joyce Meyers ever preaching on,

One of the teachings of the Word-Faith  preachers – and really, you can’t make this stuff up… it’s really what they teach! – is that if you give money to an anointed teacher of word faith, you get a blessing. Not sure how that works.

But they really teach that if you need a thousand dollar miracle, you send Kenneth Copeland a check for $1,000. If that check doesn’t bounce, then you’ll get a thousand dollar miracle. PLUS!!! You get blessed, some sixty fold, some a thousand fold! Hey! You can’t lose! Send Kenneth Copeland a thousand dollars, and you’ll get back a million in cash from God at some point! And if you sew that million dollars in cash into Kenneth Copeland… you’ll get back a BILLION dollars!

Maybe that explains the Federal Deficit.

Brothers and sisters, the only person this benefits is Kenneth Copeland. I’d love to hear from ONE person who send Kenneth Copeland a thousand dollar check, and got back an unforseen cash bonus of one million dollars. Just one.

Hey, I’d love to speak to anyone who could even claim the lowest tier of sixtyfold – sixty thousand dollars for a one thousand donation to Copeland.

Copeland’s ministries can’t complain – this is exactly what he teaches. And the people who get sucked into this are the ones who need the money the most. You’re so desperate to be able to even make ends meet, you’ll take a hundred bucks you can’t afford and send it to him.

I remember my first pastor, who I mentioned once was a word-faith teacher, talked about the time he made a pledge to donate a faith seed of ten thousand dollars, when he had nothing but lint in his pocket. And he boasted that the Lord was able to provide that cash at the last minute.

I got some doubts.

Did I donate the ten thousand? Nope. You gotta be kidding me.

Because there’s nothing in the Bible to support this.

And Copeland has his figures wrong on this, too…

18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. 19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. 20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. 22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful. 23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. Matthew 13:18-23 (KJV)

This, friends, is talking about the benefits of being saved. They hear the WORD.  Gets SAVED. Bears FRUIT.

It has NOTHING to do with sending my money to Benny Hinn, who boldly says things like,

“Do you need a miracle? The Miracle matches the gift. You cannot get a thousand dollar blessing if you sew a hundred dollar gift.”

So, my advice to Hinn is this: Send the hundred dollar gift they sent you to Kenneth Copeland. When God blesses Benny Hinn, he can use that as the miracle increase for the person who needed the thousand dollar miracle, and did not get it!

11 For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land. Deuteronomy 15:11 (KJV)

How much money has Copeland, Hinn, Jakes, Meyers and Osteen donated to the poor? Seems to me that if Creflo Dollar needed that miracle Jet plane for his ministry, he should have given ten thousand dollars to the poor in his congregation, and saw if he was blessed a thousandfold.

This teaching makes me sick. it makes me angry. These wolves are overly wealthy. TD Jakes talked about the time the heater for his hot tub exploded, and blew the entire room to pieces. It never occurred to him that the vast, vast majority of his audience cannot afford their water bill, let alone a second water heater just for a hot tub. In a special room built for it.

Joyce Meyers has one of the biggest homes of ANY of the televangelists. There’s a parsonage for one televangelist that has a 3,000 foot garage.

It’s a parsonage. His megachurch pays for that house. It doesn’t come out of his pay.

Jesus Christ had no place to lay His head, and yet these men are fabulously wealthy. It’s sickening.

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. Matthew 19:21 (KJV)

“You’ve got lack of faith”


One thing that totally angers me about the word-faith movement is this – and for those who haven’t read my entire series on word-faith, hang on to your hats… the thing that really angers me about word-faith is the teachers of it profess to have some special anointing you don’t have (BOAST of it, like they’re something better than you!!!)… and when you try to emulate them… “I rebuke that poverty! I rebuke that flu! In Jesus name, I rebuke you!”

…and weeks later, when you’ve had to go to the emergency room because you didn’t manage to rebuke the flu into Hell, or somehow a million dollars did not fall in your laps when you successfully rebuked that poverty…

…the word-faith teacher tells you, “You didn’t have enough faith, brother!!!”

um… haven’t they read all of Hebrews 11?

36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Hebrews 11:36-40 (KJV)

So Stephen, in Acts 7… didn’t have enough faith to block the stones.

Isaiah, I guess, didn’t have the faith to make the saw break.

In Acts, 12:2, James didn’t have the faith to stop the sword.

Paul must have had an extreme lack of faith… he was beaten several times, scourged thrice, and finally beheaded. Must not have been tithing faith promise amounts! He must have needed a million dollar miracle, ’cause the thousand dollar faith seed didn’t work! His fault was his poverty, and lack of faith!!!

So, continuing with my self-righteous anger of the other day…

When is Benny Hinn going to give some fatherless family with high medical bills  and living with barely enough money to keep the kids eating five days out of seven?

When is Ken Copeland going to support his impoverished followers who lack the faith? “here, I’ll sow a faith seed in YOUR life, because my theology tells me God will bless me with BILLIONS! I can’t lose!”

When is Creflo Dollar going to prove he’s a little god by giving all his money to missions, because he knows if he sows a faith seed of 50 million, he’s going to get a thousandfold back???

They always want YOUR money, but strangely enough, they never seem to practice what they preach?

TD Jakes will show you an excerpt of one of his messages, but to see the whole message, you have to sew a love offering of $14,95 or more to get it.

I tell you what, I can tell these people who to give money to…

David Cloud. How about each of them sewing a faith seed of one million dollars each to David Cloud? You know what David Cloud does?

Gives a lot of his teachings away. The ones he charges for, it’s not much. And you know what David Cloud did when the earthquake happened in Nepal? And the bigger one a few days later???

Did he make appeals for help for the people?

Well, sort of… he spent almost all of his personal money to buy the homeless Nepalese food. And asked other Christians to do the same. This was just a few months after he was sick and in the hospital.

Creflo Dollar asked us to pay for his new jet plane, a Gulfstream, to spread the Gospel. Did he buy a Piper Cherokee, or settle for some other inexpensive (relatively) propellor plane? Nope. Had to be a Gulfstream.

compare that to a group of missionaries who felt burdened for the Amazon, and so they bought themselves a Cessna, with their savings. They packed some food, supplies, and Bibles printed in the languages of some of the Amazon tribes. They landed in the Amazon.

The people they came to witness to killed and ate them.

The same tribe is mostly Christian today. Must have read the Bibles.

Have these televangelists read their Bibles? I mean, one went to jail for embezzlement years ago, and while he was in prison, spent the time reading his Bible.

After he got out, he wrote a book about it, rejecting everything he’d learned about word-faith, saying he somehow couldn’t find it in his Bible.

4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 1:4 (KJV)

End Times Rebellion


12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. Matthew 24:12 (KJV)

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV)

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1 Timothy 4:1 (KJV)

In case anyone has never figured it out, these words are not referring to some future time, a century from now.

They’re describing right this very minute.

I meant to do another message on word faith, but I think the Lord changed my thoughts in mid stream.

I spent quite a long while when first putting up this blog answering cults. However, as I encounter more and more Christians, I can come to only one conclusion… we’re right in the midst – in the very thick of – the days spoken of in 1 Timothy 4:1.

It’s useless to deny it. It’s scary the changes that have come over Christianity. I’m really worried.

How to keep your witness from being corrupted?

First, understand the Bible commands you to identify a false teacher, and separate from him. You should not watch their TV shows. You should not attend their churches or read their books.1

7 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

“Well, they teach some good stuff.” I know. I can think of one or two teachers who teach some things that are very good.  But the Bible tells me to mark and avoid.

I don’t have a choice.

“But Joel Osteen makes me feel good!”

Run from it! He does not preach the Bible. You are required to separate from him.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Ephesians 5:6-8 (KJV)

Now the last time I put these verses online together, someone called me a Pharisee. That’s highly Anti-semitic. I’m assuming he did not like me quoting the Bible, because I’m not the author of those verses… I’m just QUOTING them. But he apparently was offended by that.

Repeating what I said yesterday, if you’re offended by the word of God, that’s a salvation check moment.

11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)

Let me put this another way… any teacher who claims men can be gods is a false teacher. The Bible does not teach that.

Anyone who claims your words have creative powers… is a false teacher. I mean, I can speak helpful things, or hurtful. But I cannot speak a Mercedes into existence.

Is that what these teachers are teaching? Indeed they are.

I think a major “are you kidding me?” moment was when I heard a Southern Baptist quote Joyce Meyers. Uh… false teacher. Now, I’ll give her this, she’s got a LOT more integrity than most Word-Faith teachers. I mean, she returned money she’d embezzled years before, and had never been caught at. And indeed, she added an extra percentage. So she believes what she teaches.

All I have to do to make a lot of money is to tell you that you can make a lot of money, that you can climb out of your poverty because God guarantees it… and if you send me money as a faith seed, you’ll get it back a hundredfold. Hey, I even have more FAITH than Ken Copeland – I’ll speak that a THOUSANDFOLD! Send me money, mwahahahahaha!!!! But to DO that would be false. It’s false teaching.  I cannot imagine how Jesus Christ feels about false teachers fleecing the flock when so many people are in DESPERATE financial straits.

How about THIS message… You won’t get any more money that I can guarantee… but people out there are hurting. There are Christians out there who go to sleep crying. They are hungry. They are about to be homeless. God wants you to help them.

Will you get something out of it? Who CARES? Do it. Help them out. Find a Christian family in need and help them. See if your church has a benevolence fund and give to it. Tell your pastor you’re burdened for Christians in need. You don’t have much, but you’re giving ten dollars.

That’s a more Godly message.

Separate from false teachers. Love one another.

And I challenge the Word Faith people to preach that message.

Prevailing Attitudes


At the turn of the 20th Century, Christianity was in a much better, stronger position than now. Over a century ago, Christians everywhere understood – for the most part – that if your soteriology is wrong, you’re going to Hell.

Soteriology, for those who do not know, is the doctrines of salvation. It’s simple ,really. If you don’t teach people how to get saved, they won’t know. Most people won’t open their Bible, although I’ll say a century ago more people were conversant with the Bible than anywhere else. Over a century ago, if you wanted your children saved, you simply could open the family Bible to John chapter three, and walk away. Sooner or later, they’d see it and read, and get saved, I’ve read of exactly one occasion where a future foreign missionary was saved in exactly that way.

14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Revelation 3:14-22 (KJV)

The point here being, as this dispensation entered its last era, for the most part, Christianity was adept at at least one thing – they understood how to be saved.

They were blind to one thing, though – the doctrine of separation. Oh, sure, they understood once they got saved to avoid entangling themselves in the things of the world – but they simply trusted blindly all those who name the name of Christ. Methodists trusted Presbyterians, who trusted Baptists, who trusted Lutherans, who trusted….

The one thing they were GOOD at, was noticing when a new group popped up, if they had aberrant doctrine. They WOULD practice separation from those. When Mormons popped up 72 years before that, they immediately understood this was a cult, and that Joseph Smith was a false teacher. Ever read Sherlock Holmes? If you had the collections, you should remember the story where Holmes dismissed the Mormons as a cult, and referred to them as “Jack Mormons from Utah.” Certainly the creator of Sherlock Holmes was not in any way saved, as he was so caught up in Theosophy, witchcraft and every mystic practice he could get his hands on – but even he recognized that Mormons were a cult.

Today, we rush to embrace them.

When the Jehovah’s Witnesses emerged as the Bible Students, Christians everywhere dismissed them as a cult.

Were that we were so wise today.

They, a century ago, were willing to engage in open debates – which people flocked to – with the Church of Christ, who they dubbed “Campbellites”.

Today we can buy t-shirts with the bearded faces of a family of Campbellites, simply because they’re tv stars who publicly stand for the name of Jesus.

It’s a different Jesus, but we don’t care. Hey, I’ve met someone who’s name is Jesus. It’s pronounced Hey-soos in his language, but hey, he’s a Jesus! He’s not the Jesus of the bible. But neither is the Jesus of the Mormons, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Roman Catholics, or the Campbellites.

Where did they fail a hundred years ago? Simple. They trusted everyone who named the name of Christ.

Point one: We must recognize that not everyone who names the name of Christ is a Christian. If their doctrine does not conform to the Bible in the aspects of salvation, the deity of Christ and the Trinity, then they’re not Christians. They’re probably not saved.

Point Two: We must understand that in the last days heretics and false teachers would DOMINATE Christianity. If you haven’t been paying attention, we’re pretty close to the time of the Rapture. That means of course we’re in the seventh age of Grace, the Laodecian era. That means that obviously then, Christianity is FLOODED with false teachers.

Point Three: If any denomination teaches any other method of salvation other than what is presented in the Bible, they are to be dismissed as a heretic. I don’t care how much you may like them. I can think of some Atheists who are pretty nice guys. But I think we all agree that “ye must be born again”. If anyone teaches any other method for salvation than “ye must be born again”, they’re a heretic.

Why is my blog only one of a very few decrying Messianic Jews? Why is my blog only one of a few calling the Duck Dynasty show a group of heretics?

One Century ago, most Christians understood that Roman Catholics needed to be saved. Lo and behold some Baptist preachers arose who called Catholics “Christians” out of some form of sentimentality, and we fell apart.

Point four: It doesn’t matter what I think. It doesn’t matter what I want to believe or what I choose to believe. If I am saved, then Jesus Christ is my Lord. He says, I do. Bottom line.

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Corinthians 6:20 (KJV)

23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. 1 Corinthians 7:23 (KJV)

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 Peter 2:1 (KJV)

It’s hard, I know. I would love to be a lovey-dovey-accept everyone Christian. I would love to wallow in Ecumenism, just accept everyone who writes a book or has a tv show about Christianity. But the Bible tells me otherwise. Paul admonishes us otherwise. Peter and John teach us differently. Jesus Christ commands us otherwise.

It’s a fact, that the Lord chooses to reward us for obedience – when we don’t even deserve to be saved in the first place. Rewards ONLY come when you’re doing what the Lord requires.

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 2 Timothy 3:13-14 (KJV)

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV)

If anyone teaches any manner besides “ye must be born again”, they are a heretic. Reject them. “From such, turn away.” If they deny the deity of Christ, Reject them. “From such, turn away.” If they claim to believe in the deity of Christ but deny the virgin birth, they’re liars. You cannot say you believe Jesus is God and yet deny the virgin birth. Reject them. “From such, turn away.” If they preach salvation by works, they deny the cross of Christ. Reject them. “From such, turn away.” If they deny the Trinity, they are heretics. Reject them. “From such, turn away.” If they deny salvation by faith through grace, they deny the cross of Christ. Reject them. “From such, turn away.”

If you agree with the above, then you must reject:

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

C. S . Lewis

the “duck Dynasty”

Sid Roth

Kenneth Copeland

Kenneth Hagin

Benny Hinn

Charles Taze Russell

E. W. Kenyon

Joyce Meyers

James Trimm

Batya Wooten

David Stern of the Jewish New Testament

Angus Wooten

Joseph Smith

William Branham

Ellen G. White

F. F. Bosworth

Frederick K. C. Price

Avi Ben Mordecai

and many many others.