Really Really Creepy

Apparently, back in the 1960’s, there was a book called “666”. this book was a novel written to depict what the tribulation would be like.

MY friend, who is reading it, was reading part of it to me where the Antichrist (!) orders that recreation centers be built in churches. Workout rooms, basketball courts, etc.

That churches must now accept all faiths and religions as authentic, and that there is more than one way to God.

That all churches must hire Christian rock bands to perform updated music at churches, and that the churches should purchase psychedelic lights to flash in time to that music.

Tv screens in the churches.

I promptly asked him, “was the Antichrist named Rick Warren, by any chance?”

I was joking – no, Rick Warren is not the antichrist – but it’s CREEPY that this book was describing what goes on today in most churches. True, only the megachurches have the workout rooms. But all the churches have the rest.

I recall going to a pastor’s convention where the church looked amazingly like a mini-shopping mall. Pastors wandered through the four auditoriums, looking around with envy and coveting. I was looking for the men’s room. Had to decide which of the three men’s rooms I’d use.

Friends, even the Temple in Jerusalem will not be that extravagant. I mean, if you’re preaching the Gospel, and REALLY doing God’s work, then, yeah, that’s something!

But the drummer in that church had a bigger pulpit area than most American pastors do.

I’m not decrying success… but I have to ask, with these megachurches…

What kind of discipling goes on there? Can the members of that church answer simple questions on, “quote me a single verse to prove salvation by faith” (that should be a no-brainer… Eph. 2:8-9), or “once saved always saved” (John 3:16), or even “show me a verse that proves the Trinity” (1 John 5:7).

If they can… good! You’re doing your job.

If you’re caring for the needy.

If you’re preaching the Gospel.

if you’re edifying the Saints.

If you’re concerned with pleasing, worshiping and honoring the God of the Bible. (an aside note, I seem to have some mental block that keeps me from spelling “worshiping’ correctly!!!)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)

27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Acts 20:27 (KJV)

But if your megachurch is all about entertainment, skits, loud music, light shows, and occasionally is interrupted by some guy talking in the middle about the Bible for 15 to 20 minutes (I mean, what is THAT about, dude?)… then… doesn’t it scare you that that’s exactly what was predicted to be a description of the End Times churches in a novel about the Antichrist???


Narrow is the way 2

Yesterday I was explaining I take absolutely no pleasure in unmasking false teachers.

One of the big problems I see is that so few are ready to do it.

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

The Bible doesn’t give me any choice at all. I have to.

So if you’re upset I’m doing it… read your Bible.

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (KJV)

The point I raised yesterday is that the bible does not speak well of man.

Beware any Bible teacher who does speak well of man. Joel Osteen has made millions taking Norman Vincent Peale’s books and recycling them as one basic sermon that he gives over and over again. Yes we know – when Mr Osteen senior die,d Joel was chosen as the new pastor, or volunteered, we’re not sure which – the story changes. Yes, we know – Sr. Osteen was kicked out of the SBC for preaching prosperity and speaking in tongues. And rightly so!

Yes, we know – they bought the compaq center. Yes, we know… momma Osteen was miraculously healed of cancer… after the full regimen of chemotherapy, surgery and radiation treatments.

It’s the same sermon every week. If you’ve seen Osteen once, you;ve seen him every time. Same sermon, just re-arranged.

Osteen says that we’re so great God is amazed by us.

I’m sure if any word could be used to describe the way God feels about unrepentant mankind, “Amazed” is not the word.

According to Osteen if we just thank God for doing something for us, before He does it – we force God to do it.

How many Osteen watchers live in a house bigger than Joel’s? Drive Bentley’s or Mercedes? How’s that working out for you?

Have we EVER read the Bible to find a single example of that in Scripture? No??? Then we should stop that.

We should get our theology from the Bible, not from pop psychology of the 1950’s, Napoleon Hill “think and grow rich” (but disguising it as Christianity by adding the word “god” in there once in a while).

Rick Warren fans? You’re no better. Re-read in the Purpose Driven life about Noah. It’s all based upon a single verse from the Message from hell bible mis-translation.

Genesis 6:8(TMSG)
But Noah was different. God liked what he saw in Noah.

uh.. that’s not what My Bible says!!!!

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. Genesis 6:8 (KJV)

The meaning is different. God gave undeserved grace to Noah because Noah was repentant. He wanted to follow the Lord, and the Bible says he preached over a century for people to repent, while he built the Ark.

Any teacher that has a man-based message, who praises mankind, is perverting the message of the real Bible – repent, or ye shall likewise perish.

Because We Don’t Read our Bibles

12 Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food. Job 23:12 (KJV)

2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. Psalm 138:2 (KJV)

Do we hold our Bibles that highly? God considers it more important than His name. Do you consider the Bible that highly? Do you consider it more important than food?

I remember the Sabbath when my Rabbi found me sitting downstairs in his kitchen drinking coffee with his sons, and all he had to say was, “I hope you all said the shema before you honored yourselves with coffee.”

That was a big hit-home message.  It was far more important to quote Deuteronomy 6:4-8 than it was to stop and get a nice, warm cup of Folger’s coffee. I normally drank Maxwell House back then, but hey, Folger’s made coffee in teabag-style singles, so you could make coffee on the Sabbath.

I have esteemed the words of His mouth…. more than my necessary food.

Do you?

How many times have you read the Bible all the way through? Do you have at least ONE VERSE highlighted in every book of the Bible? All I’m asking is that you highlight 66 verses! I guarantee when my wife bought me a leatherbound King James Bible, I highlighted at least that many the first night.

Do you pour over God’s word? How well could you do in a Bible trivia game? It reveals a lot, by the way!

I know a Christian who was embarrassed that a page fell out of his Bible in front of me. I told him I didn’t know why he was embarrassed – I told him, “show me a Christian who’s Bible is falling apart… and I’ll show you a Christian whose life is not.”

Okay, I’m not the originator of that quote, but yes, it’s a true story. He’s probably gonna laugh at me at work later this week that I told everyone.

What is the result of not reading your Bible?

Well, this blog, for one. I’m so dumbfounded at Christianity not knowing its Bible I had to start a blog on my laptop a few years ago, and we decided to take it public almost three years ago.

If we read our Bibles, nobody would be an Evangelical. You’d all be Fundamentalists. And yes, there’s a difference.

If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles, we’d have dismissed Evangelicalism’s blatant Ecumenism.

If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles,we’d have recognized the ultimate goal of New Evangelicalism and Ecumenism was to build the one-world religion that the Antichrist will use to propel himself into power.

We’ve all read the verses that say…

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Ephesians 5:6-9 (KJV)
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)
6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; 8 Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: 9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. 10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. 13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing. 14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 (KJV)
We read those verses… and then we go ahead and accept people as Christians who think that being sprinkled with water as a baby makes them a Christian. That’s not a Christian.
Ye must be born again.We read those verses, and think we should accept people who think they will someday become gods and goddesses. we think we should accept people who call themselves Christians, but advocate you must keep the law after salvation to KEEP that salvation.
We read those verses, and think we should accept people who use prayers in vain repetitions as the heathen do, who burn incense and pray to idols, who teach salvation by works.
If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles,we’d have separated from all of them immediately, and warned them unless they repent and are born again, accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour in a spiritual rebirth by Faith…. that they will all perish in the fire that is not quenched, and their worm dyeth not.
If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles, we’d have rejected the lunacy that passes for the attitude we should accept a pastor whose doctrine agrees with ours only 90%. That sounds fine and admirable, but what does the Bible say? If that 10% we disagree on includes accepting everyone who names the name of Christ whether saved or not, infant Baptism, questioning the Bible, Baptismal regeneration, the deity of Christ, inspiration of Scripture, salvation by works, idolatry, or the Trinity – they’re a heretic. Why should I accept them?
You know, really, when you start looking at some cults (you know, the ones everyone used to agree on were cults before one of them ran for President as a Republican Candidate!!!), you start to see we agree on some things. Should I accept Mormons as Christians because we agree on a few things? Or Jehovah’s Witnesses because we agree on possibly a few more? No. The Bible says one promotes Universalism and Idolatry. The other denies the Trinity, the Deity of Christ, and manages to somehow mangle their entire Bible into meaning the exact opposite of what the Bible says.


If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles, we’d have rejected Billy Graham in the 1950’s when he spoke in favor of Baptismal Regeneration, and began involving Roman Catholics in his “crusades”. And we’d have rejected him even more forcefully when he denied the existence of a literal Hell in the 1960’s. And when he began offering Halley’s Bible Handbook to people – with every reference to Roman Catholic massacres and tortures of Christians removed.

If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles, we’d reject teachers like Joyce Meier, Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Crefloe Dollar, Myles Munroe, E. W. Kenyon, Benny Hinn, Gloria Copeland, Rod Parsley, and many, many, many others we tolerate. It sickens me to hear Baptists quote Gloria Copeland or Joyce Meiers, when we should KNOW better!

If we all compared every teaching we heard to our Bibles,we’d probably all have rejected the new modern perversions of the Bible, upon seeing that they removed or called into question THOUSANDS of words and even entire verses!

People. I cannot say this strongly enough. Open your Bibles. Make it a habit to read them, to know them. Make it a habit to study them. Do NOT make a pet doctrine of yours the basis for your Bible knowledge, make the Bible provide you with your doctrines.

I’ve recently had some debates on this blog where Christians tried to argue for their pet doctrines, heard my Scriptural basis for my doctrine, and proceeded to try to argue logic with me, without resorting to Scripture. If you did that, that’s a major warning sign.

You know what the very first warning sign is your doctrine is off? Questioning the Pre-Trib Rapture. I’ve noticed when Christians begin doing that, just like ballistics, their aim gets further and further off the father they go.

And I’d be willing to bet that if you’re reading a modern translation, you’re shocked at the things I’m talking about today.

People, make it a PRIORITY to read your Bible, study your Bible.


One of the thoughts I’ve long had is – how long does it take for a church begin to slide into apostasy, and how do they do it? Between three and fifty years.

There’s really no way to say. Lee Robertson’s Church, for example, had one small deviation, from what I’ve read. Pastor Robertson wanted to stay away from controversy. He refused to criticize publicly any Pastor, Bishop, Reverend, etc.

He played the safe road. However, when aiming a gun at a target, if you’re only a fraction of an inch off at the front sight… over 25 yards you miss the target. The issues of his church going apostate was inevitable. By not warning about teachers who denied fundamentals, he left his church unable to tell who was a wolf, and whom a pastor. They were defenseless.

It took years, but from his decision to never criticize, he made it inevitable. In fact, men came in while he was there who made decisions and changes that led to the church’s sorry state.

Marc Monte is a good, fundamental, Narrow is The Way (NITW) King James Only (KJO) Pastor. He warns his congregations about false teachings, but rarely names names. It will take his church much longer than Lee Robertson, but unless he begins to openly say names, it is inevitable. His congregation is aware of bad teachers, but unable to identify them So, as a result, they’ll listen to any Bible teacher with strong teachings and strong convictions. Rick Warren has strong convictions, almost all of which are wrong. R. C. Sproul has strong teachings and strong convictions, and they too are completely wrong. Paul Washer, the same thing. How will his church know who to avoid? All Pastor Monte has to do to avoid this is – go ahead and let them know who he’s talking about!

On the other hand, lets look at a different example. The average Southern Baptist church boasts a membership whose age is averaging in the 50’s-60’s. There are pastors who have the very real fear of performing the funeral of the very last member of their church, and then going and locking the doors forever.

So when Wolves come along, like Rick Warren, who have a guaranteed plan of boosting attendance, many of these Pastors grab on to it desperately. They have no idea there is another way. Start moving your church to a Fundamental, Narrow is the Way, King James Only church.

You do admittedly lose a LOT of people this way. Being a Christian is like swimming upstream. Most Christians sadly are not educated as to the evils of wrong Bible translations, worldly living, worldly dress, worldly churches. Instead, they think, “why, this is just like the World I just left!” and they’re happy. Few are reading their Bibles enough to notice a pattern of “come out of the world and be ye separate, and touch not the unclean thing.”

But the Fundamental NITW KJO Baptist church has a specific group that attends. They are hungry for the word of God, ready and willing to do what God says is acceptable, ready to accept any mission you ask of them. You know, saved people/alas, so many of them are open to cultism, because so many cults are wrapping their deceptive poison teachings in the shiny wrapper that is KJO or NITW.

So, you have to educate. I sometimes think of the Christian walk as being more trying to maintain footing as you cross a rushing stream. the water tries to tug you off step. The devil will do anything in his power to get you offstep. If you’re off balance, you’re easier to fight. The devil dislikes trying a head on, touch gloves ring the bell fight. He’d rather weaken you first.

If you can educate a FKJO congregation to beware of cults, errors and traps, you’ve got a rewarding church. Now the issue remains is you’ve got a small congregation, and oddly enough, mostly young people. I think the younger generation sees the hypocrisy of the Purpose Driven movement.

that’s pretty much the rule, not the exception. There are some Fundamental KJO churches with large congregations. A lot of that comes from the “rotating of the saints”, stealing church members from other congregations. There’s good and bad in that. Good, if you’re getting people from apostate churches, and churches that are sliding into apostasy.

Bad, if you’re getting them from other Fundamental KJO churches – that’s bad. I recommend you not allow that. Someone can visit from another Fundamental church as a friendly “welcome to the neighborhood” approach. If they come back, some experts recommend you call that church and let the pastor know. This lets him know you’re not trying to poach off members.

The pastor willing to take this route has the comfort of knowing he’s doing the Lord’s will. As more and more people walk willingly into the “falling away” of Thessalonians, you’ll see Bible Believing churches get smaller and smaller before they disappear. The Pastor who tries to set up a salary with his church may possibly see the church unable to meet it.

Pastors may have to change their focus from “living from the Gospel” to sadly, “augmenting your living from the Gospel”.

Before we slide too much further past that, the Lord will most undoubtedly have Raptured the Church.

Ecumenism Explained

In keeping with Phil Stringer’s sermon I listened to at the beginning of the year, I thought next I’d explain the Ecumenical movement.

I’ve lain the foundation, by explaining Biblical inspiration, Fundamentalism and separationism.

I’ve asked some uncomfortable questions about the goals of famous Evangelical Bible teachers, and given some quotes that should have you very unsettled.

If you’re still an evangelical and not a fundamentalist, I’d love feedback on this one. I won’t debate you, I just want to hear your motivations, WHY you have learned what you have learned, and still want to remain a part of this. This way, I will know how better to address most Christians. Or most people who think they’re Christians, because they persist in easy believe-ism, and may or may not actually be saved.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. Revelation 13:3-10 (KJV)

This is the Antichrist. The entire world will worship him. And one will arise who will cause all organized religions to worship the Antichrist.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:11-18 (KJV)

If the Rapture takes place sometime in the next few years, I think I can put a name to this man. He’s a well known Bible teacher, and VERY influential in the Ecumenical movement.

Let’s sum up what you just read, because it’s very important you understand where you’re going.

There is a time when all the religions of the world will actively worship a single man. And a leader of those religions will cause all to worship him – or die.

So, the step right before this is to bring all religions together in one.

And that means uniting all peoples who call themselves Christians, whether cult or not. Like Mormons. Jehovah’s Witnesses. Presbyterians. Episcopals. Baptists. Pentecostals. Non denoms.


Let me diagram this out so you can understand.

  1. Get all who call themselves Christians together.
  2. Get all religions together.
  3. Worship Antichrist.

These aren’t even the first steps, these are the last three steps.

So, where are we on this prophetic calendar?

We’re almost at the end of step one, and step two has already started. We may only be a couple of years from step 3, but that stage is not reached until all the real Christians are raptured.

What does all this have to do with the Ecumenical movement? And Evangelicalism? Please note I’ve already explained the difference between Fundamentalism and Evangelicalism. There’s only one or two differences between them, but they’re profound. So, what does this have to do with it?

Why, everything. How do you think they intend to unite all Christians?

The Ecumenical movement is designed to unite all Christians together. And it has recently expanded to include Mormons. This happened long before any Mormon ran for president – this happened back in 1996. Operation World began including statistics showing Mormons as Christians. Amazingly, nobody complained.

In case this is something you too believe, I’ll explain it. Christians believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, who we regard as one third of the Trinity. Jesus Christ is fully God and Fully man.

Mormons re-interpret the word “god” to mean a promotion. The catchphrase used by Mormons is “as man now is, God once was. As God now is, man may become.” That’s a frightening statement. Because of it, Christians used to consider Mormons a cult. Well, no more, it seems! The Billy Graham Evangelical Association recently removed all references to Mormonism from their website in the sections referencing cults.

The decision of Christians to support Mit Romney was merely the excuse these Ecumenical leaders chose to advance the pushing of this agenda.

Roman Catholics. Manny years ago, Christians looked at Roman Catholic doctrines, which teach one must be saved by faith and works. Indeed, the official policy of the Roman Catholic church is that “if any man say that one is saved by faith through grace without works, let him be anathema.” In other words, if you dare to quote the Bible (Eph. 2:5-6) you are damned to eternal Hell.

That’s pretty much the anti-Bible right there. Satanaists should actually feel right at home, since the RCC seems to thrive on doing the exact opposite of what’s taught in the Bible. Bible forbids idol worship? Let’s do exactly that. Bible forbids worship of the queen of heaven? Let’s add that right in! Bible requires a pastor to be the husband of one wife? We’ll forbid marriage to priests. Bible despises Nicolaitanism? We’ll build our church polity on that. Bible always describes the churches as a local entity? We’ll advocate a doctrine of one universal church, and naturally, we’ll be that church.

So, what’s been the most successful campaign of Ecumenism? Getting Christians to consider the Catholics as Christians. Which just thrills them to death, naturally. So we stop witnessing to them – and condemn all 1.2 billion of their souls to an endless torment in Hell.

Incidentally, we’ve been treating the Seventh Day Adventists as if they’re Christian and not a cult, and nobody says a word. That’s the fruit of Ecumenism right there. Messianic Judaism proclaims every heresy in the book, and almost NOBODY has raised their voices in protest or concern!

New Evangelicalism and Ecumenism go hand in hand. They’re synonymous.

And just by an amazing coincidence (sorry, my sarcasm is rising again) it’s pushing the very agenda that will create the apostate world-wide church that will worship the Antichrist.

Last year, I posted the timeline of apostasy, by David Cloud. If you didn’t read that (yes, it’s long) you need to. Because you see the pushing of the same agendas over and over again. Many of the things they pushed 100 years ago are commonplace today, which means – they won.

Brothers, sisters, it’s like this – there is a very real agenda being pushed. And most of us fell for it. I know that for my first six months as a Christian, I was an Evangelical, because I assumed that Evangelical meant the same thing as Fundamentalist. I discovered to my chagrin they are not, and made the necessary adjustments.

We used to preach the Gospel. Now we preach a whitewashed one that cannot save. And that mostly is not effectively done. We need to preach the Gospel.

We used to separate from those preaching heresy. We stopped that, and now we’re infected with it ourselves.

We’re accepting just anyone who names the name of Christ as brethren. Yes, it’s just WONDERFUL! I wish I could do it, I really wish I could! But I can’t! The Bible shows that the apostles in Acts preached the gospel in different ways. In one case, they found people who SEEMED to be Christians, but were not showing the evidence in their lives.

Today, we’d have run into the followers of John the Baptist and said nary a word, welcoming them as brethren. A little quirky, but hey, they’re Christians, right?

Nope. Paul witnessed to them, explaining the Gospel. They all got saved. If he had not…. they’d have been writhing in agony for the last two thousand years. Endless agony.

how about this quote from a song by a rock star? “I only know Hell is getting hotter, the devil’s getting smarter all the time… I’ve just come back to show you all My words are golden, have no doubts before Me, I’m the light…”

Yes, Alice Cooper preached the Gospel back in 1972. I doubt he does the song Second Coming in concert any more. But you don’t hear preaching like this in today’s pulpits.

We’re wallowing in “kum by yah”, shaking hands with lost people, because we’ve sereiously lost our way if we can no longer tell the difference between Christians and cults.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20 (KJV)

Why is Jesus Christ standing at the door and knocking? Because we’ve locked Him out of the churches.

but not just the Lord. There’s an agenda to force the Fundamentalists out of the churches. Really. recently, I listed some quotes from famous Bible teachers about how they opposed Fundamentalism. I named names. I told you two or three of the outspoken critics of Christianity. I’m sorry, but Fundamentalism IS Christianity. Evangelicalism is a whitewashed sepulchre, an abomination, the very things that the Lord warned us about in Revelation 1-3, and in Matthew 23.

If major Bible teachers, the influential Bible teachers of today, are opposed to Fundamentalism, what does it mean? It means the blind are leading the blind. I think Swindoll is just caught up in error, backslidden. He comments that he used to have a lot of fundamental beliefs he would die for – and yet, today the number of beliefs he would risk death for dwindle to nothing. He apparently does not view this distressing condition as a symptom something is wrong, that he’s backslidden, mired so deeply in Ecumenism he can’t even recognize the Bible.

But the others… John Ankerberg is a famous name. But on his tv show, whenever he’s had a Fundamentalist on it, Ankerberg has ALWAYS sided with the heretics.


That should give you questions. MAJOR questions.

Be willing to let people leave the church. And I told you earlier the fact that people are gonna leave the church no matter what you do. But when you define the vision, you’re choosing who leaves. You say, “But Rick, yes, they’re the pillars of the church.” Now, you know what pillars are. Pillars are people who hold things up … And in your church, you may have to have some blessed subtractions before you have any real additions. — Rick Warren

This was in his “Pastor’s Toolkits” Nov. 2007 newsletter.

So, rick’s plan is, “make the church attractive to the worldly – and anyone who opposes the vision, chase them out.” There’s no advice there to search the Scriptures, to prove all things, to be a good Berean… Paul commended the Bereans, who searched the Scriptures to see whether these things be so…

It’s plain. Rick Warren has taught, since before I was a Christian, for Pastors to get rid of the Fundamentalists. Drive them out of the churches. Because they’re NEVER going to go along with his ten-point plan, which culminates in Warren pointing to a human being and commanding us to worship that man… and take his name or the number of his name as a mark to show our loyalty.

I’ve got major worries. The churches need to WAKE UP. Christians need to WAKE UP.

We’ve abandoned the hallmarks of the faith. We’ve abandoned the Bible. We’ve abandoned Jesus Christ. Rick Warren at the inauguration of a United States President, made a reference to his saviour, and called him by name – Isa. That’s not Jesus Christ, that’s the ****** religion’s version of him. And that Jesus is not the son of God, is not the Messiah, did not die for our sins. That’s a false Christ. And NOBODY said a word.

If we will not call out a man on a heresy like that, what WILL we call him out on? If we, like Swindoll, have few cardinal doctrines we would die for, what does that say about us? We cluck our tongues and say, “I can’t BELIEVE Christians will take the mark of the Beast willingly!”

Thanks to New Evangelicalism, I seriously think that not only would most Christians do exactly that, but that most Christians would push and shove their way up to the front of the line to be FIRST to do it!

Come out of New Evangnelicalsm. Renounce it. Many of you have blogs. Write against it. Advocate Fundamentalism, reading of the Bible, “read it and heed it”. And use your blogs not only as a witness against heresy and apostasy, but as a witness to save the unSaved.

If NOTHING I wrote here upset you, we need to talk. Write your comments below. I want your thoughts. I will not argue, I just want to understand WHY you would oppose a literal reading of the Bible, and why you would continue to support teachers who teach apostasy and heresy.

Fundamentalism Explained

Please allow me to proceed by first defining Fundamentalism. And then help you to understand why you should become one.

FUNDAMENT’AL, a. Pertaining to the foundation or basis; serving for the foundation. Hence, essential; important; as a fundamental truth or principle; a fundamental law; a fundamental sound or chord in music.

FUNDAMENT’AL, n. A leading or primary principle, rule, law or article, which serves as the ground work of a system; essential part; as the fundamentals of the christian faith.

FUNDAMENT’ALLY, n. Primarily; originally; essentially; at the foundation. All power is fundamentally in the citizens of a state.

These are from Webster’s 1828 dictionary, a must-have dictionary. There’s free modules for Bible Analyzer and for E-Sword. If you were to go to the year 2012 on my blog and start reading all my articles from the beginning (hey, what a radical idea!) then you’d see why… when I quote a word from Webster’s and then you see Bible verses after it, that’s not my impressive scholarship – why, that’s Webster’s. Those verses are right out of the Bible. Mr. Webster knew his Bible better than any of us – Concordances were not commercially available in those days.

Fundamentals are the basics. If I were to try taking up Golf again (shudder) I would most definitely spend quite a bit of time on grip, and swing. Those are the Fundamentals.

What are the Fundamentals of the Christian faith? I spent some time in a wild-eyed rant last month on “what doctrines are essential to salvation?” Let’s look at a slightly longer list, in “what are the fundamentals of the Christian faith?”

Belief in a God. That’s kind of a no-brainer. It disqualifies most theologians, by the way. Like a lot of those names I talked about yesterday in the “King James Bible” issue.

1 And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exodus 20:1-3 (KJV)

Belief that Jesus Christ is divine. If you do not believe Jesus Christ is fully God, and fully man – you cannot call yourself a Christian. Which amazes me as a lot of cults who deny the deity of Jesus Christ often want to call themselves Christian. Mormons have a very different definition of “God” than we do. To many of them, it’s like a promotion, an office. They deny that God created anything out of nothing, a term called “Ex Nihilo”. See, I paid attention in Seminary.

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. John 8:58 (KJV)

30 I and my Father are one. John 10:30 (KJV)

Everyone doing good so far? If not, skip the rest of this and drop down to the bottom and leave a comment. I promise I’ll answer it as soon as possible.

A Literal belief in the Bible as God’s word. Here’s where it gets a little tricky. There’s all kinds of people getting this wrong. It means when you read Genesis, you believe in a literal, 6 day creation. That’s not too hard, right? Lots of Evangelicals are right there with me.

It means you believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. That’s kind of important. If you deny the Resurrection, you deny Christ’s power to save you. And trust me, if you don’t accept His bodily Resurrection, here’s a clue – He won’t save you.

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) 37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Acts 10:34-43 (KJV)

Notice it was part of Peter’s Gospel message. D. L. Moody once had a seminary student deliver a Sunday message where he taught the life of Jesus Christ. The student promised to speak on the Resurrection the following week – but Moody explained the man would not be speaking ever again. “The Gospel without the Resurrection is no Gospel at all.”

A literal belief in the virgin birth of Jesus Christ. Yup! If you don’t accept this by faith, this is most definitely in the “I’m a little worried about your salvation” category.

How we doing?

A literal belief that the death, blood, burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ atones for the sins of fallen mankind. Wow, those scary Fundamentalists! “hey, you’re starting to describe me!” I hope so!

A literal belief that Jesus Christ ascended bodily into heaven. I believe that. Absolutely. No questions.

A literal belief in the second coming of Jesus Christ. Yup. The Bible says it, that settles it.

That’s pretty much it for the beliefs category. How did you do? I’m hoping you scored a home run! I’m pretty sure everyone here scored well on that. Well, a couple of you are following my blog because you’re selling vacation homes, and if you follow 10,000 blogs, you’ll be able to get at least 1,000 followers, and that way you can legally sell your spam on WordPress. And a few others are fiction writers, who are following 10,000 blogs in the hopes of getting 1,000 people to read your fiction. I think that would be amazing, to know a thousand people read your words. But what I’m getting at is… for those of you who do not, let’s see if we can help you with your beliefs over the next year!

Okay, what else is there? Well, there’s a mindset for a Fundamentalist. I’m going to give you the big definition shortly. “God says it, I believe it. Matter of fact, God says it, I do it.” A Fundamentalist is to a certain extent, someone who believes and follows the commandments of God as a lifestyle choice. Or rather, wants to follow, but messes up a whole lot.

Let’s look at those commandments! There’s a LOT of them Fundamentalists choose to keep, for the love of God.

  1. Love the Lord your God
  2. Love thy neighbor as thyself.

Whew! That’s a lot of reading right there! Those are the choices I make. How often do I live that? A few seconds every week, but I’m trying. Some weeks I’ve been able to consistently keep those two commandments for up to 18 consecutive minutes in a row! Yeah!

Well, what bothers me is how often I put myself over others consistently. But that’s another blog post there.

Ready for the big definition now? I bet a lot of you are thinking you’re Fundamentalists right now! There’s one little thing that separates Fundamentalists from Evangelicals. I was dumbfounded to learn when I first got born again, that I was not a Fundamentalist, but an Evangelical. Once I was educated as to what an Evangelical believes, I made the change immediately. It’s like people who call themselves Calvinists. Once many of them try wading through Calvin’s Institutes, they often realize they’re really Baptists who believe Electionism. And when they learn what Calvin advocated as “Sound doctrine” – they abandon his heresies quickly.

getting back on topic, let’s look, finally and at last, on what a Fundamentalist is. I’ve made the case so far that a Fundamentalist is someone who believes in the fundamentals of the Christian faith. But what do they practice? There’s a huge difference between what you do and what you believe.

For instance, I bathe and brush my teeth daily. Does that mean I believe that these are requirements for salvation? Not at all. Enemies of Fundamentalists routinely accuse Fundamentalists of believing that we are saved by dressing modestly. They’re raising a straw man by deliberately representing what we do with what we believe.

here’s the definition of what a Fundamentalist is…

A Fundamentalist is a born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ who–

  1. Maintains an immovable allegiance to the inerrant, infallible, and verbally inspired Bible.
  2. Believes that whatever the Bible says is so.
  3. Judges all things by the Bible and is judged only by the Bible.
  4. 4. Affirms the foundational truths of the historic Christian Faith: The doctrine of the Trinity; the incarnation, virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, bodily resurrection and glorious ascension, and Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ; the new birth through regeneration by the Holy Spirit; the resurrection of the saints to life eternal; the resurrection of the ungodly to final judgment and eternal death; the fellowship of the saints, who are the body of Christ.
  5. Practices fidelity to that Faith and endeavors to preach it to every creature.
  6. Exposes and separates from all ecclesiastical denial of that Faith, compromise with error, and apostasy from the Truth.
  7. Earnestly contends for the Faith once delivered.

Wow, that’s not really a lot, is there? But it’s the article 6 that separates Evangelicalism from Fundamentalism. It’s right about the only difference.

Let’s use two hypothetical people, Bob and John.

Scenario 1: Bob is a Christian, John is a Jehovahs’ Witness. They work together. Bob is a committed Christian, and John comments on Bob’s faith, and lets it be known as a Jehovah’s Witness he does not believe in the Trinity. He invites Bob to his house for a Bible study. Bob decides not to go, because he really doesn’t want to associate with someone who denies the trinity, understanding that bad doctrine can be contagious.

That’s article 6, the doctrine of separation. It’s in the Bible. A lot of Christians think one of the verses refers to marriage – be ye not unequally yoked. That’s separationism.

Let’s rephrase the scenario, so that we can make it clear. I’m only going to change one word, and part of a sentence, and it should make everything clear.

Scenario 2: Bob is a Christian, John is a Mormon. They work together. Bob is a committed Christian, and John comments on Bob’s faith, and lets it be known as a Mormon he believes man may become God, which is a denial of the Trinity. He invites Bob to his house for a Bible study. Bob decides to go, because he really doesn’t want to commit the sin of Mormophobia.

Wait. Does that make sense? That’s essentially the same scenario. But it’s what Evangelical leaders are pushing right now. “Accept the Mormons as fellow Christians.” But since their doctrines deny the deity of Jesus Christ, and their view of God is so flawed that it cannot be said they truly believe in one… that we have to conclude they’re not saved. “When I become a supervisor, I’m going to have a nice office.” “When I become God, I’m going to have a nice planet.” See, that’s viewing God as a position, a promotion. That’s not a belief in a God, that’s a hope in a promotion.

Scenario Number three: Bob is a Christian, John is a theological modernist.They work together. Bob is a committed Christian, and John comments on Bob’s faith. He explains he thinks salvation is a process based on becoming a more moral person and says that he has always been a Christian, at least since his Baptism as an infant. He invites Bob to his house for a Bible study. Bob decides to go, because he really doesn’t see any problem, since John is a member of a Christian denomination.

Are you getting the picture? The responses Bob makes are the responses of an Evangelical. An Evangelical trusts everyone who names the name of Christ, except for the most blatant cultist groups. “moonies? Cult! Messianic Jew? Why, Christian!”

A Fundamentalist would answer “no” to every scenario.

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

Fundamentalists are people who’ve put this into practice.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Ephesians 5:6-9 (KJV)

As a Fundamentalist, you begin to become suspicious of anyone advocating associating with modernists, cultists, and the unsaved. You can call yourself a Christian, but that doesn’t make you one. You have to be born again to be a Christian. Jane Fonda made a comment years ago about she was a Christian now, but did not consider herself one of those born again wackos.

Well, if she’s not born again, she’s not a Christian. I can call myself a wagon, but that doesn’t make me one.

going to church does not make you a christian. You can sit in your garage all day, but that doesn’t make you a car.

So, why do we call people Christians who consider their salvation to be being sprinkled with water as a baby? That doesn’t make you a Christian!

So why do we associate with those denominations who do?

Why are Evangelical leaders pushing you to do it?

Why are they pushing you to accept cults?

Why are they pushing you to Rome?

now that you understand the Fundamentalist mindset (I’m almost done!), let’s look at one more thing.

Many Evangelical leaders are literally treating Fundamentalists as if they’re the enemy.

If all a Fundamentalist is is one who accepts the fundamentals of the Christian faith and believes in separating from heresy… then the only real enemy of a fundamentalist should be Satan, right? Satan and his followers…

“I spent some time trying to support a friend. It seems he’d gotten a letter from some Fundamentalist whacko, and got depressed…” Charles Swindoll.

Yup. I heard that on Swindoll’s radio program broadcast on WBBN. It was the last time I listened to him. Swindoll clearly views Fundamentalists as the enemy. I present this as a fact, without drawing conclusions. Who was Swindoll talking about? Well, the only Fundamentalist I know of who sends letters expressing concerns about someone’s doctrinal stands is… David Cloud. Who’s the friend? Don’t know, but I’ll guess Rick Warren. Many Evangelicals are waking up to the fact that Rick Warren may be dangerous. slowly but surely.

There are all kinds of fundamentalists, Larry, and they’re all based on fear. There are Christian fundamentalists. There are Muslim fundamentalists. I’ve met some Jewish fundamentalists. You know that there are secular fundamentalists. They’re all based on fear. Secular fundamentalists are afraid of God.” Rick Warren, Larry King Live, Dec. 2, 2006

Worried yet?

There are Evangelical leaders who describe themselves as the enemies of a Fundamentalist. And I think I’ve made a very good case, with the scenarios above, for every Christian should be a Fundamentalist. Now that you know what one is, what they believe, and how they practice their faith, shouldn’t you be one?

Charles Swindoll is not my enemy. But by his own words he declares me to be his enemy. Rick Warren describes me as his enemy. All I do is avoid associating with heretics, and for that they declare me an enemy.

Are Evangelical leaders really leading you in the way of all truth? Think about that. Because the only difference between an Evangelical and I is I choose to obey Scripture and separate from heresy. That’s all. And because of that, they declare me to be an enemy.

Raises a lot of questions, doesn’t it? Why would you oppose that which is clearly commanded in the Bible?

Apostasy Pt. 4

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 1 Timothy 4:1-2 (KJV)

Consciousness seared. the reference is to a grievous wound, being cauterized. It was one reason that the Romans carried fire with them into battle, that if a soldier had a limb cut off, flame could quickly be applied to it and stop the bleeding. It hurt, but the person lived. However, due to the massive damage to tissue at that place, some parts of the wound (if not all) had a numb sensation for the rest of that person’s life.

The point raised here in the word of God is that these men (and women) simply did not care if they were teaching falsely. Indeed, some may have gotten so numb that the word of God would cease to convict them.

I cannot understand how Billy Graham can in good conscience advocate baptismal regeneration for infants. He knows better. Doesn’t it bother him that he smiles and speaks in favor of something that is completely unBiblical?

Or how Graham can turn over a Roman Catholic to the Roman Catholic Church at his crusades. How is Graham going to answer God when asked “Why did you turn over a soul ready to be saved to men who were unsaved themselves? What explanation do you have why you allowed those catholics to go into Hell forever? They came to YOU to be saved, AND YOU TURNED THEM AWAY!”

What answer will he have?

The fact is, Graham has been wallowing in compromise and doctrinal error for almost 60 years. He apparently has no conscience left. It simply does not even occur to him what he’s done has been wrong.

Rick Warren. Doesn’t it bother him he teaches pastors, indeed, INDOCTRINATES pastors into how to drive Fundamentalists from their churches?

the fundamentalists were what saved the Southern Baptist Convention from being overtaken by apostates years ago. Yet Warren has done more to drive them away than any other. Indeed, Independent Baptist Churches have swelled in size, due to the exodus of the Bible Believers forced out of churches that are suddenly Purpose Driven.

Warren, like Graham, seems to idolize the Pope, and has done more than any other man to drive the Southern Baptist Convention into Ecumenism than any other. And it doesn’t bother him at all.

Should we assist the unsaved in evangelizing the unsaved? No, we should be trying to get them saved!

There are, I’m sure, many Protestants who are saved. But it seems to me that the Creeds and Confessions of those self-same Protestant churches say something other than what the Bible says about being born again. Many hold to Pre-destination, and don’t bother talking about sharing the Gospel, because they don’t believe that the sinner has any choice in the matter whatsoever! Should we be cooperating with THEM for the sake of the Gospel? It’s plain they don’t know what it is!!!

There’s a couple that think if your parent is a Christian, that somehow gets you into heaven, as long as water was sprinkled on your forehead as a baby. Well, that’s not how the Bible says you get saved. It’s clear they don’t know what salvation is… how are they going to help us?

A few claim you’re not born again unless you babble in an unknown tongue, allegedly that of Angels – which if it really were the language of Angels, it would be Hebrew, since that’s the language they all spoke on earth. It’s obvious they’re a little confused on the visible fruit of salvation, although I know for a fact they are advocating a Biblical message about the Gospel, they’re wrapping it in a package of witchcraft. I’m not sure how they can help us with the Gospel, because they’ll smudge it with paganism.

Some do not believe in the Trinity. If they don’t repent, they’re damned themselves. how can they help???

Some believe we can lose a salvation that is not ours to lose! How can we possibly cooperate with them???

And Rick Warren seems to think God is somehow impressed with how cool we are, how great we are, that God bows His knee to us in wonder and reverence… That’s the worst blasphemy I can think of, elevating man above God. Don’t believe me? Read his “Purpose Driven Life” carefully.

Does ANY of this bother Warren? NO!!! His conscience is seared, cauterized. I don;t think he ever feels convicted any more, reading his Bible.

Osteen, same thing. T. D Jakes, no awareness of conviction. Hagee, nicely advocating a two-covenant salvation, is apparently unrepentant. Hinn, no conscience. Dollar, unaware.

Pastor after Pastor after Pastor is completely unmoved by what the Bible says. And false teachers are not pointed out whatsoever, to anyone. Congregations are completely unaware what false teachers to avoid, because Pastors are afraid to criticize openly, and say things like, “Don’t listen to Joyce Meyers!!!”

The truth is, if Pastors had woken up and spoken out against false teachers a century ago, we’d not be in the mess we’re in.

I don’t believe we lose rewards, but rather miss the potential for them. However, if we did lose rewards, there are a lot of Pastors who face a potential loss because they did not heed the Bible’s strong admonitions.

If you are a pastor, or training to be one, you should be studying 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus every year… perhaps twice a year. Heed what it says. They speak often against false teachers.

yes, there’s pressure in the Southern Baptist convention to accept the Calvinists. My answer to that is, “No. It’s heresy. They should get their own convention, because as soon as they climb in influence and numbers, they’re going to force us out.”

There’s pressure to accept the modernists in the SBC. My answer is, “No. Get saved and believe your Gospel, or go join some denomination like the Episcopals or United Methodists, where your heresy is tolerated.”

There’s starting to be some isolated voices in the SBC to accept lifestyles that are not Biblical. My answer is, “no. If we’re not going to just accept a Satanist who still practices Black Mass and sacrifices, then we should not accept someone who blatantly wants to live a lifestyle forbidden by the Bible.”

Although if we accept the one, it won’t be long before we’re accepting the other. “sure, it’s fine, he slays some goats, but his heart is good…”

Here’s my last thought on this 4 part series. If you were not outraged by what you read, if you did not think, “yes! That’s true!!!”…

….then perhaps your conscience has been seared, too.

We need to repent, and get back to God. Get back to the Bible.

God forgive us for doing nothing.