About the Rapture…

I’ve noticed that one of the search terms that I see the most, is “Franklin Graham on the Rapture.”

I suspect that most of the people are searching for two reasons…

  1. They’re looking to see what he believes about the Rapture, to know how they should believe OR
  2. They’re looking to see what he believes about the Rapture because they’re Pre-Wrath, mid-Trib or Post-Trib and they’re looking for an axe to grind.

For the first group, I’ll let Scripture speak for itself…

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Matthew 22:29 (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? Mark 12:24 (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
Read your Bibles for yourself. If I pick a famous Bible teacher to follow and let him decide for me what’s Biblical, that’s alarmingly bad. Don’t blindly follow any human being, whether it’s Billy Graham, Franklin Graham, David Cloud, or that blog guy Philip Dean! Probably especially the last one.
The Lord Jesus Christ requires you to read your Bible, and to know what’s written in it. He asked uncomfortable questions about the Bible, and strongly declared a literal reading of the verses, and denounced allegory except where Scripture comes right out and says, “This is an allegory.”
Let’s move on to the second group.
The word “church can be found 18 times in Revelation 1-3.
It can be found in Rev. 22 only once.
For some 19 chapters, it is mentioned zero times.
So, why is the most commonly used word in the first part of Revelation used prior to the Tribulation, and then not again until after Jesus Christ returns to Earth?
uh… the churches all go somewhere.
Because the Bible suddenly starts speaking about Jews.
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Revelation 7:1-4 (KJV)
“Tribes of Israel.” This doesn’t mean denominations of Christianity. This means Jews. You know, my people. Y’hudim. Vos mach stu, Yidh? You know, those people the Nazi’s tried to kill. Those people that are so hated in almost every country on earth.
What do we derive from this?
Moses and Elijah return to earth. Meaning someone brings them. That same someone takes all the Christians off the earth, and God at last returns His attention to His chosen people, whom He has promised not to forsake.
35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: 36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. 37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD. Jeremiah 31:35-37 (KJV)
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. Romans 11:1-5 (KJV)
I have a lot of writings on the subject of the Rapture, and I do recommend you take the time to read them, with your King James Bible open and look up what I refer to.
Here’s one of the crowning (hint) proofs that the Rapture is in Rev. 4:1…
10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Revelation 4:10-11 (KJV)
When do you get your crown? The believer’s Judgment. When is that?
1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 1 Peter 5:1-4 (KJV)
When the Chief Shepherd appear. The believers get their rewards when Christ returns. But… Christ hasn’t returned to the earth until Revelation 19, right?
The Rapture.
The Rapture, according to Revelation has to happen between Rev. 4:1 and Rev. 4:10. So, somewhere in those verses we should see the door of Heaven opened (hint), right?
1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Revelation 4:1 (KJV)
The Rapture.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11 (KJV)
the second coming. The door in Heaven opens twice. The Rapture, the Return.
Case closed. Go read my other articles on the Rapture.

Pre-Wrath Rapture Answered

Yesterday and the day before, I finally took on and demolished all the arguments supporting the Post-trib and Mid-trib raptures. I dealt with all their proof texts, including Galatians 3:28, 1 Corinthians 15:51, Matthew 24, Revelation 19 and Mark 13.

Today’s going to be short. So short if you blink you miss it.

The Pre-Wrath of Marv Rosenthal is really not Rosenthal’s position. He first got it reading it elsewhere. Unfortunately, his theory – now widely accepted by Independent Baptists – doesn’t hold ANY more water than a pot with a hole in it.

Rosenthal holds that the rapture must come AFTER the sixth seal, because what comes next is called “The wrath of God.”

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Revelation 11:18 (KJV)

Well, that would kind of make sense except…

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Revelation 6:12-17 (KJV)

That’s the sixth seal. If you’re going to position the Rapture as being before the wrath, then it would have to be after the 5th seal, a position for which there is no scriptural basis.

There’s only one more faulty Rapture position, and I’m dealing with it tomorrow.

Mid Trib Rapture Answered

I’m going to make this one short and quick.

Mid Trib is vanishingly similar to “Pre-wrath”. I can demolish the Pre-wrath argument of Marv Rosenthal in just a few sentences. It’s too easy.

Most of the arguments I used yesterday apply to this one as well.

Galatians 3:28 is talking about faith, the law and salvation, and adoptionism. In other words, can a Jew or a Gentile be saved by keeping the law? by no means.

Matthew 24 and Mark 13 are talking to Jews, not Gentiles.

The supposed Matthew 24 verse that most mid,post and pre-wrath believers say is talking about a rapture is really talking about the gathering of saints in Heaven to return to the earth for the day of vengeance of our God. for Armageddon.

What do you have left to justify your mid-tribulation rapture?

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:31 (KJV)

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:52 (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV)

If we assume these are all the same trumpet, then it would make sense.

But we see that a trumpet is blown in heaven, and the saints are gathered to return to earth for Armageddon. So, the seventh trumpet in Revelations is not the last trumpet.

Whoops! That kind of rules out the “Mid-trib” position, as well as pre-wrath… as both of them postulate that the rapture occurs during the seven trumpet judgments.

This is an error, as we’ve already seen yesterday.

If we compare it to Matthew 24, we find ONE MORE trumpet blast, the calling of the saints in Heaven. So, if we go solely by the timing of the last trumpet blast…Post Trib would be a more defensible position.

Except it’s not. Why?

The saints are in heaven. this trumpet blast would have to take place in Revelation 19.

The raptured saints must take place in the believer’s judgment.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. Revelation 4:4 (KJV)

I don’t know where you learned your math, or where you get your Bible, but 4 comes before 19. In Revelation 4, we see that the 24 elders have crowns. They’ve already gone through the believer’s judgment, and gotten rewards.

And revelation 19:1-9 is the Marriage supper of the lamb. Believers are supposed to be there. Revelation 11-14 is the opening of the dor in heaven. When is this door opened the first time?

Revelation 4:1.

So if the door opening is the saints returning to earth… wouldn’t the first opening of the door be the Rapture?

uh, yeah.

So, now you have to defend the mid-tribulation belief from the Bible without using Galatians 3:28, Mark 13, Matthew 24 or 1 Corinthians 15.

go ahead. At least the mid-trib view used one more verse as a proof text than the post-trib did.

Good luck. you can’t. Make sure you review yesterday’s post so you can see how I dealt with all the arguments.