A Biblical Examination of Pentecostalism #5


Last one for now! I’ll sneak some in later when nobody expects it.

Something I remember someone saying when I was attending a Messianic Synagogue (in the days before I was saved…)…

“Why have scientists never analyzed tongue speaking?”

Here’s the answer, some 20 years later: They have analyzed it many times. Each time they have disproved it.

Tongues. Technically known as Glossolalia.

Here’s an encounter I had with a co-worker, which I wrote about a few years ago.

Incidentally, someone at work wanted to argue with me. He brought up a radio show he’d heard about two Baptist pastors claiming we had the Bible all wrong. I’m glad they pointed it out – Godly men have been prayerfully studying the Bible all wrong for 2,000 years until these two jokers came along!

Anyway, the guy at work told me Baptists were wrong, because we don’t believe in speaking in tongues, and these two Baptist pastors were convinced we were wrong.

My response to him was to quote 1 Corinthians 12 – “Tongues will cease.”

He replied, “Well, that’s not for today.”

Wow, really? A Charismatic telling me tongues ceasing were not for today! I told him, “It says until that which is perfect is come. The Bible is described as perfect in the Psalms:

7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. Psalm 19:7 (KJV)

I was really trying to get out of the conversation – this kind of discussion is not permitted at work. But the fellow persisted.

“Well it also says that knowledge will cease. Do you know anything? If you do, then tongues are for today.”

I answered him patiently. “Will you know the Lord after the Millennium?”

He paused. “uhhh…. Yeah.”

“Then obviously we’re not sitting around in the eternity completely oblivious- that would describe death, not life. We’ll know the Lord, we’ll know the Gospel, we’ll know each other… So obviously this is not talking about knowledge as knowledge – this is talking about Word of Knowledge, the supernatural understanding of correct doctrine for the purpose of writing the New Testament – and that’s already written. That also covers the supernatural knowledge Peter showed with Ananias and Saphira.”

“Oh.” He shook his head. “Well, I haven’t studied it out.” That wasn’t quite true – he obviously had studied it to the point he thought he had a zinger that would stump me. That wasn’t the case. So he quickly got out of the conversation. Which was okay by me. If he wants to talk about it after work, excellent! During work… No. My employer does not permit it, and I honor that request.

With the understanding of Genesis, that tongues means languages Biblically, we see that supernatural manifestations of tongues was to speak in a language miraculously you did not know. The New Testament furthermore made the requirement that if you got the urge to suddenly speak in, say, Basque in the service, let the pastor know, and when permitted, speak. The requirement was that someone had to be there who was a native Basque speaker to understand it! This is what it means by “One to interpret”. If you wanted to speak in Basque, and had never learned it… But there was nobody there who spoke Basque… Then you should hold your tongue. God would bring that only if someone was there to interpret. This is a clear teaching of the New Testament.

What are tongues for?

22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe. 1 Corinthians 14:22 (KJV)

This means if you stand up in a Charismatic church and begin speaking in other tongues, you are in effect claiming someone in that church body is not saved. Your speaking in tongues is for them. If they do not speak that language – then you quite simply wasted your time, and it was not of God that you spoke in that tongue.

If it was not of God that you spoke in tongues, then who was it of?

We go to the first verse listed by Charismatics…

1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. Acts 2:1-11 (KJV)

I’m not trying to paint a Libyan flag with the colors – but I wanted your eyes drawn to the very verses that discuss this. Each of the verses is in a different color to contrast them, and force the modern Bible reader into doing something that was common prior to the 20th century (reading one verse, or one thought at a time.)

I don’t know exactly the number of Pentacostal pastors who teach the two-tongue theory, and how many simply don’t differentiate. I attended a Charismatic church before I was saved (and I’ll be discussing this a lot as we go through this). My former pastor taught there was two different kinds of tongues, “Other tongues” and “unknown tongues”.

He would agree with me that “Speaking in other tongues” was – speaking in a language that you did not know, as supernatually enabled by the Holy Spirit. What he would not agree with me on, is that this gift is passed away, as the Bible said it would.

However, he advocated (consistent with most Pentacostals) that speaking in tongues also included “unknown” tongues, tongues that were not spoken on earth. Another name for this was “the tongues of angels”, speaking in a heavenly tongue.

While these terms are indeed used in the Bible, it is not an interpretation that can clearly be derived rom Scripture from context and usage. Indeed, the only usage of the few verses in the Bibles on this relatively unimportant gift all seem to be referencing the same thing, speaking in a language you don’t know.

I’ll digress briefly by telling you I remember a deacon in one of these churches (a Messianic “synagogue”) complaining why hasn’t anyone ever analyzed speaking in tongues so that it can be proven?

Getting back on topic, here’s the other verses on speaking in tongues. There’s not many.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Acts 10:44-48 (KJV)

The last time, they were all Jews who spoke in tongues, in the presence of many unbelieving Jews. It was a sign for the unbelievers that God was with the 11 Apostles, and that truly everything they spoke about the Gospel was of God.

This time, Jews are still present. The people speaking this time are Gentiles. It is a sign that salvation is not limited to Jews. That may sound odd to today’s hearers, but it would have been a truly hot button topic back in those days.

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. Acts 19:1-7 (KJV)

That’s the last verse talking about speaking in tongues in the Bible, except for 1 Corinthians. I’ve already dealt with this one in detail.

Again, the question would be, who is there? All Jewish. This took place in relative proximity to a synagogue, as we see from verse 8:

8 And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God. Acts 19:8 (KJV)

So, who do we have? Disciples of John (all Jewish), Paul… and in relative proximity to unbelieving Jews. Now the “Why” question. Why did they speak in tongues here?

for a sign to unbelieving Jews, and to all others, that God had called Paul to be an apostle. There is no record anywhere else in the Bible of anyone recieving the gift of tongues.

To say they continue today when they do not fit the definition, use, method or practice is inaccurate to say the least.

A Biblical Examination of Pentecostalism #4


One more after this!

Let’s go to Ernest Angely, for his defense of speaking in tongues from the Bible. The chronology is going to raise some eyebrows.

Ten years after Pentecost, the Gentiles received the gift of the Holy Ghost; the Holy Ghost also testified through them when He came in… (Acts 10:44-46). Twenty five years later we find some people receiving the same Holy Ghost in the same way. He took over their vocal organs and spoke in another tongue. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues (Acts 19:6) (https://www.ernestangley.org/tags/tag_entries/tag/Baptism+of+the+Holy+Ghost)

ten years plus twenty five years is thirty five years. I know, math is not my strong suite anymore (I used ta be really good at it) but I’m getting 35 years, even using a slide rule and a scientific calculator.

Acts runs from 30 AD to 60 AD.

I don’t know about you, but Ernest Angely is putting Acts 19 at 65 AD… five years after Acts was written! Acts ends abruptly as Paul is put to death before Luke continues writing. Why didn’t Luke write about Paul’s death? Easy one… the Holy Spirit stopped moving Luke to write after Paul reaches Rome.

Mr. Angely is off by about 9 years, according to Ramsey, and off by about 15 years by some other accounts that puts Paul’s missionary journeys earlier in time. I’ll go by the latter date and give Mr. Angely the benefit of the doubt.

The last Biblically recorded example of speaking in tongues is around 56 AD. After that, it vanishes from the earth.

There is no place in the Bible that tells us the method has been changed… (Ernest Angley)

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 1 Corinthians 13:8 (KJV)

There’s a verse in the Bible saying that tongues would cease. It was written in 55 AD. In 56 AD Paul witnesses to and converts disciples of John, and they speak in tongues. No mention is made of speaking in tongues after this. After 1 Corinthians, there is no tongues speaking in the Bible.

It ceased.

A Biblical Examination of Pentecostalism 3


Just a couple more, I promise.

Pentacostal Objection #2 – “What about all those people who were saved in Acts? Every one of them spoke in tongues afterwards?”

No. There are only three recorded times anyone spoke in tongues. And there is no record of those people speaking in tongues AFTER that.

The Phillipian Jailor did not speak in tongues after he was saved.

The Eunuch in the chariot did not speak in tongues.

Only the disciples of John, the Apostles themselves, and Cornelius the Centurion and his household. That was it.

There is no record of Cornelius speaking in tongues ever again.

Or the Apostles of John.

As a matter of fact, only Paul is recorded as pseaking in tongues after Acts. And then only during one of his first books, 1 Corinthians.

And its plain that Paul championed love and doctrine FAR above tongues speaking.

Pentacostal Objection #3

“The Bible says the sprit would testify and we will bear witness.”

Good point! How are you going to bear witness if you’re speaking in a language you don’t understand? And the person who you’re babbling at has no earthly idea what you’re saying?

19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:19 (KJV)

Like, “Jesus died for your sins.”

A Biblical Examination of Pentacostalism 2


Yesterday we talked about speaking in tongues. The way we dealt with it will satisfy Fundamentalists, who are used to analyzing things from the Bible. It won’t satisfy one Pentacostalist out there, so I’m going to explain this for another three days or so, then quit and go to something else.

Pentacostal Objection #1 – You say tongues will cease. But the same verse says knowledge will vanish, and I still know things.

Answer – Explained that yesterday, you either didn’t make it that far, or didn’t like what I said. It’s not going to change things at all.

The word knowledge there is γνῶσις Gnosis, to know. Their are other Greek words for knowledge, and they continue straight through to the Enternity. Greek words and English words are not the same – it is a series of sounds that connect to a concept, and Koine Greek is astoundingly precise. I can use the words “Recognize” “Understand”, “Know” and each is a different word for a different concept, but in a similar grouping or construct. The WORDS are different, but the concepts similar.

One Greek word for knowledge is Oida, which can be found in Rev. 21:22. Note the word Knowledge is not used there, because the translators of the King James were astoundingly learned men. They understood rules of Greek that aren’t even TAUGHT anymore!.

So, will knowledge pass away? No.

But word of knowledge will. and already has, and that’s what 1 Cor. 13:8 is speaking of.

Any Pentacostal who tries to tell me there’s no such thing as “word of knowledge”, brother, I’m not buying it. You all use it whenever someone claims to know everything about you. It’s not working.

If you don’t believe me, let me ask YOU a question…

Do you REALLY believe that when the New Heavens and the New Earth are created, there is no sun, no temple, no moon, no darkness…

…that you’re going to be lying around, drooling? “Duhhhhh….”

What does that mean to you that you won’t have knowledge??? You just won’t know anything anymore? Like someone with an overly enthusiastic lobotomy?

Obviously not.

The Bible says tongues will cease.

And they did.

A Biblical Examination of Pentacostalism


A lot of this was done earlier under my 21 part study of Word Faith. Many pentacostals list themselves as Pentacostal, and say they’re not Word Faith or “positive confessionalism”.

But there’s VERY little attempt in Pentacostal churches to deal with making sure the doctrine of the church is correct. I say this, because they wouldn’t stay Pentacostal very long.

One thing I’d read from David Cloud and a few other teachers such as John Macarthur, was that Pentacostals place experience over doctrine. I’d read that Pentacostals, when challenged that the Bible teaches something else, will invariably retort, “Then you need to put away your Bible and trust your feelings!”

I always figured it was bombast, until I experienced an exchange that said exactly that!

First Rule of whether you’re in a Biblical church or not – if you cannot prove your church’s doctrine from the Bible, then you need to throw that doctrine out.

The standard methodology of Pentecostalism is to tell a sinner who needs the Lord, “You need to get saved.”

Absolutely no problems there. At all. Agree 100%.

“Pray this prayer…”

uh-oh. A little worrying, but I’ll keep my mouth shut. Let’s see what happens.

“Now, after your saved, you need to seek a second, subsequent blessing, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.”

Stop. Back up the bus, boo boo.

Find me that anywhere in the Bible. Where do we see a second subsequent blessing?

Pentecostals will point out a single verse, but I’m going to take a minute and lead up to that.

There’s only 3 passages where people in the Bible speak in tongues. Acts 2, Acts 10, and Acts 19.

When I first found that out, it blew my mind.

Because when I first thought I was saved, I attended a local church, where people seemed EXCITED about God. That’s why I joined. It was Pentecostal, and Word Faith. Indeed, it was an offshoot/church plant (kind of) from a megachurch that was word faith.

They taught me that in Acts, every time someone was saved, they spoke in tongues. They put a lot of pressure on me to speak in tongues. I tried it.

Later, I began to learn Hebrew and found that what I was speaking all along was, well… nonsense. That’s okay, they said… you have to speak nonsense!

Why?

Because if you know what you’re praying, the Devil can hinder it. And so the Spirit prays in a heavenly language that you can’t understand so Satan can’t hinder your prayers!

My reaction should have been to look that up in the Bible. That can’t be found in the Bible at all.

1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Acts 2:1-8 (KJV)

The Apostles and Disciples were all speaking in known tongues. “Tongues” in the Bible means “languages.”

γλῶσσα of uncertain affinity; the tongue; by implication a language (specially one naturally unacquired) :- tongue.

Glossa means tongue, language. Speaking in tongues means speaking in languages.

So for me to say to someone, “Hola, Como Esta Usted???” is speaking in tongues.

1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, 2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. 3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius. 4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. 5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter: 6 He lodgeth with one Simon a tanner, whose house is by the sea side: he shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do. Acts 10:1-6 (KJV)

34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. 36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) 37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Acts 10:34-46 (KJV)

For those who glossed over the Bible verses trying to get to Philip’s point,… go back and read. You’ve got your priorities wrong! The word of God is silver purified seven times. Read it.

A Roman gentile… is praying to God, and seeking God. He is told to send for Peter, a Jew. Peter comes with Jews to Cornelius’s house. Get’s halfway through a Gospel presentation. Cornelius begins speaking in tongues.

Peter makes a long speech. What is the essence of that speech?

“Oh wow! God can save Gentiles, too!!!!!”

Read it. Isn’t that what it says?

How do they know? Cornelius begins speaking in a language that the Jews know.

If I’m telling you about how WONDERFUL Wordsearch 11 is and you begin to foam at the mouth and “oogle loogle lailailai!!!!” I’m going to dial 911, because I’m afraid you just had a seizure or something.

So, Cornelius is speaking in a language, testifying about Jesus Christ. He just manifested the Biblical expression of speaking in tongues – speaking in a language you do not know, but someone else present does.

Where do I get that from?

Acts 2, of course. And Acts 10. “they heard them…. magnify God.” To hear them magnify God means they were just speaking a language that the Jews knew, but didn’t expect a Roman to know. Hebrew or Aramaic. I’d joke and say Yiddish, but someone would take me seriously.

Bottom line… they weren’t saying “Bubblyaida.”

Let’s go to the third and LAST time anyone in the Bible spoke tongues.

1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. Acts 19:1-7 (KJV)

Okay! There you go. That’s the only times anyone in the Bible spoke in tongues.

And incidentally, we’ve uncovered the only passage that can be shown to be a “second, subsequent blessing” if you’re reading it wrong.

Let’s read it correctly.

Disciples.

Whose?

John’s.

Not Jesus’s. They KNEW about Jesus, because John spent his ministry prophesying about Jesus, and incidentally, to make the people ready, encouraged them to mikveh. To submerge themselves under water for ritual purification.

Paul tells them about it. And gives a Gospel message – you should believe in the one John prophesied of, Jesus Christ.

Analysis… were the disciples of John saved?

No.

Paul gives a Gospel message there – that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

They were then baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Not a mikveh, a self immersion, but a burying and resurrection of the dead, as Christian baptism is – being immersed by someone else.

They then speak in tongues.

Analysis – who is present in all three times people spoke in tongues?

Answer – Jews.

Who is not present at almost every Pentecostal speaking in tongues?

Same answer – Jews.

That’s kind of a problem. Tongues are a sign gift, for those who do not believe. And it was a minor gift. Prophesy was the more encouraged.

Each time someone spoke in tongues in Acts, it serves a purpose. Acts 2, that Jesus is Messiah. Acts 10, that Gentiles can be saved. Acts 19, that Paul is truly an apostle. That subject was hotly debated in the early churches, because he was not present during the earthly ministry of Jesus. And others rose up, claiming to be apostles, and they disputed Paul’s apostleship. Where do I get that? Ephesians and Colossians and… in several epistles, actually.

Bottom line about tongues is this… this is the Bible, not Philip. Philip can be wrong. The Bible cannot be wrong.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 1 Corinthians 13:8 (KJV)

the gift of prophecy will fail.

The word of Knowledge will vanish away. This does not refer to understanding, but rather to the divine gift that Peter experienced in the case of Ananias and Sapphirus.

1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, 2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. Acts 5:1-5 (KJV)

οἶδα is found in quite a few verses in the Eternity…

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. Revelation 21:22 (KJV)

but λόγος γνῶσις cannot be found after this verse…

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 1 Corinthians 12:8 (KJV)

So the divine spiritual gift of word of knowledge vanished away very quickly.

Why? Did its job. It established the fact that the Apostles spoke truth, and that God was with them.

So knowledge in 1 Corinthians 13:8 does not refer to understanding or recognition, but rather the divine gift of Word of Knowledge.

So what’s left…

Tongues will cease.

“Out of your mouths…”


Word Faith has a funny doctrine… What you speak out of your mouth you create.

“You just will be the death of me!” Always gets a hurried, “Don’t say that!!!” from panicky Charismatics, worried that your thoughtless complaint will cause you to rupture and fall to the ground, your body splitting in two or green foam run out of your mouth, or something like that.

Here’s the line of reasoning behind this.

  1. God created the Universe by speaking.
  2. God made Adam
  3. Adam was created in the image of God, right down to being an exact duplicate. He even LOOKED just like God. Same eye color and everything.
  4. This means Adam was a g-d, with amazing power. Whatever God could do, Adam could do.
  5. When Adam sinned, God was (l’havdil) kicked out of this world, and lost the legal right to interfere here.
  6. Jesus Christ was (l’havdil) the first Born Again man, and restored to us the right to be g-ds again.
  7. We are now g-ds again, and have all the powers of God.

Okay, ready to analyze this by the Bible?

I can prove steps one and two from the Bible. That’s about it. The rest is pagan and New Thought occultism. It’s not Christianity at all.

First, God is God. God can do anything. It’s not hard for Him. God is limitless.

Adam had limits. There’s nothing in the Bible about Adam flying like a bird, breathing underwater like a fish, jumping to the moon, or any of the other claims by Word Faith teachers.

Adam created nothing except excuses and denial.

If Adam was a g-d, how was Satan able to tempt him? Does anyone ever think this stuff through?

“If you eat this apple, you’ll be like a g-d.” “Uh… too late, I already am.” “Foiled again!”

No, Satan told Adam that he would be like God in that he would know the difference between good and evil. So Adam would be like God.

This tells me that A). Adam was not a god and B). the first Word Faith preacher was Satan, not E. W, Kenyon.

All right – let’s try a test. Command a planet to come into existence, right next to the Earth. If you’re a g-d, do it! It’s easy for God. He didn’t even have to concentrate, practice some light reps with a bar of fifty pound weights to get warmed up! Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Hm! Didn’t happen?

You’re not a god. We are not gods.

using the rule of first mention, who was the first person to claim that?

Satan.

Get out of Word Faith while you can.

The Word Faith Movement Examined 11


A note – on this page I provide hyperlinks to check the veracity of quotes I will give. These hyperlinks are only for the purposes of verifying my sources. I do not endorse everything on these websites. Use caution.Central to the Word Faith movement is that of positive confessionalism. In other words, the theory claims that you have the creative force to speak something into existence.

The theory is complicated, which should be a clue it is not of God. The roots of it go back to Smith Wigglesworth, Finis J. Dake, Mormonism and Mary Baker Eddy/Christian Science.

Why do I include the last two?

Because essentially, the movement claims at its basis the following unScriptural doctrines – the source of those teachings is in parentheses:

  1. Faith is a substance, like Gravity (E. W. Kenyon)
  2. God spoke Faith, causing the Universe to spring into being. By His positive confession of faith, the Universe created itself. (E. W. Kenyon / Dake)
  3. God reproduced Himself on earth, creating a race of Little Gods. (Mormonism)
  4. When we sinned in the garden, we gave the legal right to the world over to Satan, and God had to – pause – retreat from this world. I added the pause, because there was no way I was going to write out such an uninterrupted blasphemy. (Kenneth Hagin / Mormonism)
  5. Because God supposedly is not in our Universe, He supposedly can do nothing unless we give Him permission to do it. (Hagin/Kenyon)
  6. we lost our legal rights ot be gods in this world, because Satan owns it. Our nature was exchanged for Satan’s nature. (Mormonism)
  7. Jesus, the perfect man, had to die and go to Hell for three days, He became sin itself on the Cross, and had to suffer in Hell for three days. (Kenyon)
  8. In Hell, Jesus became the first born-again Man, and through His newly restored Godhood, left Hell, paying the way for us to enter heaven. (Kenyon/Hagin)
  9. Since God’s will is for us to be healthy and wealthy, the Gospel is the healing is ours when we permit it. And if we speak money into existance, it will happen. (Christian Science / New Thought)
  10. We are the same as Jesus, the first Born Again man – except we will do mightier works. After all, are we not gods? (Mormonism / Christian Science)
  11. And since the Bible says “Ye will do greater things than me…”, the average Word Faith practitioner is BETTER than Jesus! (Hagin / Copeland / Price)

The answer is… no, not by a long shot! And anyone that can espouse this nonsense will not be entering Heaven. Notice they are worshipping a false god, a false Jesus, a false Gospel. I’m going to prove it.

The false god of Word Faith, notice, is not the God of the Bible.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:1-5 (KJV)

Notice the God of the Bible creates the Universe from nothing. He is omnipotent, meaning “all powerful”.

The false god of Word Faith has to use existing forces, “Faith”. He does not have all power. He must use what someone else made – who it is is unknown. and in the Word Faith universe… the universe makes itself. It has to, in obedient response to god’s positive confession of faith. Who does their false God have faith in??? Obviously someone higher than himself. The god of the Word Faith movement is not the God of the Bible.

The God of the Bible dwells in Heaven, but is everywhere at once. He is omnipresent.

The false god of Word Faith dwelt on Earth when he made it, and had to flee when “Legal rights” were given over to Satan. He now dwells on a planet. No doubt the Bible is named Kolob, as the Mormons teach. So far, the entire creation of the world account as given by Word Faith teachers is amazingly reminiscent of those given by the Book of Mormon.

Where did these “Legal rights” come from? Where were they created? Where did, according to Word Faith teachers, Satan come from? They don’t say.

Who enforces these legal rights the Word Faith teachers talk about? They speak of a “Supreme court of the universe…” Who is that? Who is so powerful that God has to obey their legal decisions?

translation – there are other gods, each with their own planets. Right out of the Book of Mormon. I’ll be providing these quotes later on, trust me,

That’s not the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible does not retreat or flee. The God of the Bible is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent. All powerful, all knowing, everywhere at once.

The Word Faith teachers will say things like “Jesus, the perfect man.” I don’t know who they’re talking about. It’s not the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible. And as Justin Peters repeats in his A Call To Discernment videos, “If it is a different Jesus, it is a different Gospel, and a different Gospel cannot save.”

The Lord Jesus Christ in the Bible is more than a man. The Lord Jesus Christ is God in human flesh, Emmanuel. He is eternally pre-existent. The Lord Jesus Christ existed before the creation of the universe.

the “Perfect man” Jesus sounds more like the Christian Science “Jesus”. Perfect, the first “born again man.” That’s crucial to the word faith teachers, as it makes the miracles the Lord did available to all of us… for a love offering of $1,000 or higher. I actually have a video of a Word Faith teacher dismissing a $1,000 offering as “nothing – we’ve got people on Welfare vowing that – and paying it!!!”

They don’t always come out and add the last part, but if you listen closely, it’s in there. Always indirectly hinted at. More often than not, they come out and say it. “send me a thousand dollars.” We’re years away from Marjoe Gortner, who confessed in his documentary, “Just ask for ten dollars in a cookie jar. Because there’s at least 5 little old ladies in every city who’s got five dollars in a cookie jar, and they’ll send it to you. You can make $5,000 in a month doing that.” Greed has pushed the Wird Faith teachers into asking for the $1,000 right now – because apparently if you have 5 people in every city with it, and you’re in 40 cities on Cable – well, you’ll make $200,000 a month! Marjoe is probably thinking to himself he got out way too soon.

The Word Faith movement Jesus is a false Jesus, another Jesus, as the Bible says. To quote Justin Peters, “Another Jesus, another gospel.” The Bible says that anyone who preaches another gospel is to be accursed. In other words, they themselves are not born again.

What is faith?

1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 (KJV)

Indeed, this is the verse taken out of context and misused by Word Faith teachers.

Heb 11:1 εστιν δε πιστις ελπιζομενω υποστασις πραγματων ελεγχος ου βλεπομενων

The word we’ll be dealing wtih here is not πιστις Pistis, Faith, but rather… υποστασις Hupostasis (For some reasn, the diacritic is not showing up…. sorry… it really starts with an H sound).

Hupostasis, (Hoo po Stah sis) is a compound of two Greek words Hupo and Histemi. Hupo means under, through. Histemi means to stand, to be in place, established. Indeed, Apostasy comes from a usage of Histemi meaning “to move from where you stood”, “To deviate from the correct standing”. I mention this on purpose, by the way.

So Hupostasis would then mean to be established in understanding. “Confidence” or “Assurance” would be another word for it.

I’ve listed the verses where this word is used. The bolded word is Hupostasis.

4 Lest haply if they of Macedonia come with me, and find you unprepared, we (that we say not, ye) should be ashamed in this same confident boasting. 2 Corinthians 9:4 (KJV)

17 That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting. 2 Corinthians 11:17 (KJV)

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Hebrews 1:3 (KJV)

14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; Hebrews 3:14 (KJV)

The Bible is not, then, saying “substance” in the way that electrons are a “Substance”. The concept is that “Faith” then would be something you could hold in your hand, like water.

This is an incorrect view, as you could plainly see for yourself by examining Hupostasis in context in the other 4 verses it is used in. If the Word Faith teachers all had the Websters 1828, like Fundamentalists do, they would know it means:

“The essential part; the main or material part. In this epitome, we have the substance of the whole book.”

now faith is (The essential part) of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. (paraphrase, to give understanding to the words used in the authorized version)

When you say your Word Faith god is speaking in faith, you are in essence (that word essence right there would have been Hupostasis in the Greek, by the way) claiming that your little G god had confidence in something other than himself. In other words, the god of the Word Faith movement had to have a God of his own! Meaning the Word Faith movement god was a created being, who exalted himself to the place of God.

And indeed they are Biblically correct here – there is indeed a created being who exalted himself to the place of God:

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:13-14 (KJV)

The Bible actually gives the name of this created being in the previous verse, and even tells what the result of his “positive confession” that he is a little god will be!

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Isaiah 14:12-15 (KJV)

Let’s test this further. We have a created being who exalts himself into the place of god, and gives a positive confession that he is a little god. Does he teach others the same thing?

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Genesis 3:1-5 (KJV)

So the very first cardinal doctrine of the Word Faith movement is refuted right off the bat!

I’m going to further show that the Word Faith movement is incompatible with Christianity, and indeed is the antithesis of Biblical Christianity.

Biblical Christianity says that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, the wages of sin is death, God commendeth His love in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, and those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. That’s the Romans Road, a boiling down of the Gospel into a few seconds. It places the burden on Man, in that we are sinners, and the wages of sin is death. God gave us a way to salvation through the propitiairy sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ. By repenting of our sins and our sinful ways and turning to the Lord, confessing His name and pleading with Him to save us, we have faith in the Lord to save us by His grace. That’s the Gospel.

Word Faith says that god created the world by the speaking of his mouth, but we, little gods all, gave away the legal right of this world to Satan. So the god of Word Faith, unable to interfere in this world without our permission sent a man named Jesus to die and go to Hell and be punished for us. while in Hell this man Jesus became born again, and resumed his original nature as a god. So we, when we are born again, are little gods again. The god of the Word Faith movement requires our mighty permission to act in this world, and when we speak this faith substance, we create just as the Word Faith god created – and when we pray, we give this powerless god the ability to act in this world.

Biblical Christianity gives God the glory, and boasts of the mightiness of God. Word Faith gives man the glory, and claims god is powerless. It is a different God, a different Jesus, a different Gospel.

The Bible warned that false teachers would arise, bringing false gospels.

29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Acts 20:29-30 (KJV)

3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 5 For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. 2 Corinthians 11:3-5 (KJV)

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV)

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18 (KJV)

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 2:22-23 (KJV)

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 1 John 4:3 (KJV)

7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:7-9 (KJV)

In light of everything we’ve examined, it’s time we started making conclusions, uncomfortable ones. We’ve shown the Word Faith teachers are teaching something that has to be considered another Gospel. The Bible is clear what we must do to any that teach this false gospel.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:10-11 (KJV)

The question now is… do most Word Faith teachers deny the Godhood of the Lord Jesus Christ? That is the other component that positively would identify them as the antichrists spoken of in these verses. (All quotes were found on Let Us Reason unless otherwise noted. Some additional quotes were found in the E-Book Heresy Unmasked by Basilius M. Kasera)

“why didn’t Jesus openly proclaim Himself as God during His 33 years on earth? For one single reason. He hadn’t come to earth as God, He’d come as man.” Kenneth Copeland

“Jesus existed only as an image in the heart of God, until such time as the prophets of the Old Testament could positively confess Jesus into existence through their constant prophecies.” Kenneth Copeland

“When His blood poured out it did not atone.” (Kenneth Copeland) http://www.alan-vincent.com/wordoffaithmovement.htm

“Don’t be disturbed when people accuse you of thinking you’re God -the more you get to be like me, the more they’re going to think that way of you. They crucified me for claiming that I was God. But I didn’t claim I was God, I just claimed I walked with Him and that He was in me.” Kenneth Copeland, quoting what someone named Jesus supposedly told him.

“The trinity is a doctrine of the devil.” William Branham.

“Jesus is not God.” Paula White

“the trinity is of course God the father God the son God the holy Ghost. We have to be careful because religion has us sometime thinking we have three different Gods. You know there’s God here ..hey holy ghost- hey Jesus…its God one God one faith one baptism not three Gods not three faiths not baptism’s everytime you mess up,one. God the father, one God, three functions one and different functions God functioning as a father- God functioning as a son -God functioning as the holy ghost.” Creflo Dollar

“I believe in one God who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I believe these three have distinct and separate functions so separate each has individual attributes, yet are one. I do not believe in three Gods.” T. D. Jakes

“God the Father. ladles and gentlemen, is a Person, and He is a triune being by Himself, separate from the Son and the Holy Ghost… God the Father 1s a Person, God the Son Is a Person. God the Holy Ghost Is a Person. But each of them is a triune being by Himself. It I can shock you- and maybe I should- there’s nine of ’em… God the Father, ladies and gentlemen. Is a Person with His own personal spirit, with His own personal soul, and His own personal spirit body. You say, 1 never read that.’ Well, you think you’re in this church to hear things that you’ve heard for the last fifty years? Ladles and gentlemen, this thing is in my book and was tested by three theologians… it’s all in the Word…” Benny Hinn

“Teachers of the Trinity teach that Jesus is Jehovah; they have no scriptures to back this up, and why don’t they believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that Jehovah is Jehovah?” Gwen Shamblin

“God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost, God three in one. The Holy Ghost is no different than Jesus and Jesus is no different than the Holy Ghost …water you see it… if you take that to a scientists and ask it to analyze that and tell you what it is. He won’t tell you its water he’ll say that’s two parts hydrogen one part oxygen.That’s H2O now if take this and boil it and I capture the steam and I take that to the scientist he won’t say its steam he’ll say its H2O if I take this and put it in the freezer and take it to the same scientist hand it to the scientist say analyze this for me he won’t say that’s ice he’ll say that’s H2O they’re all H2O but there different manifestations of the same thing.” Rod Parsley

“You can’t call us ‘Jesus only,’ as some have. We do not deny the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit, We believe Jesus Christ is wholly, fully, absolutely and completely God. But no one isgoing to put us in the position of saying there are three Gods.” Tommy Tenny, author, United Pentacostal Church

Do Word Faith Teachers deny the atonement on the Cross? Yes. They insist the atonement had to be paid in Hell.

“Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the thieves could have paid your price.” Frederick K. C. Price

“Physical death would not remove our sins. He tasted death for every man – spiritual death. Jesus is the first person ever to be born again. Why did HIS spirit need to be born again? Because it was estranged from God.” Kenneth Hagin

“It wasn’t the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin … anybody could do that.” Kenneth Copeland

“Jesus Christ knew the only way He would stop Satan is by becoming one in nature with him…He became sin, so sinners can be righteous in Him. He became one with the nature of Satan, so all those who had the nature of Satan can partake of the nature of God.” Benny Hinn http://www.alan-vincent.com

“Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only” Kenneth Copeland

It’s really time we stopped calling these men Christians. Most of them have denied the Godhood of the Lord Jesus Christ. If they don’t repent, they’re getting left behind in the Tribulation, and they’re going straight to hell at the moment of death.

The Bible commands us to separate from any who deny the Godhood of Jesus. We are to mark them and avoid them, not even wishing them Godspeed, lest we share in their punishment. How can two walk together, unless they be in agreement? Kenneth Copeland, Gloria Copeland, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Hagin, T. D. Jakes, Creflo Dollar, and Myles Munroe are heretics, who teach blasphemies and damnable heresies, denying even the Lord which bought them. Unless they repent, they face a terrible future in Hell.