Redeeming the Time

16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. 18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; 19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; Ephesians 5:16-20 (KJV)


This is the time. Seriously. I am becoming more and more convinced that the Rapture of the Christians is nearing. Many of you have blogs… this is the time to get serious about this.

Contend earnestly for the faith. Witness to the lost. Try to reach those who call themselves Christians, whose entire claim for a hope in Heaven but who actually claim nothing but a wet forehead as a baby. Try to reach those who think they are a god, and can speak things into existence. Try to reach those who believe that the Watchtower Society is God’s faithful servant on this earth. Try to reach those who believe that Joseph Smith was visited by an Angel who used to be a man named Moroni. Try to reach those who believe they have to keep the laws of Moses to be saved. Try to reach those who think “the Sunday Sabbath is the number of the beast”. Try to reach those who think Hinduism is the way. Who think their Buddhist faith will get them reborn if they redeem enough karma points. Try to reach those who think the vibration of cosmic crystals will allow them to ascend into a higher order of sentient being. Try to reach those who think, “My whole family is Baptist, so I guess I go to heaven too…”

You’re going to get arguments. You’re going to offend many. You’re going to risk a lot of heartache just to finally reach one person – but that one person will avoid Hell forever, and that’s the point.

And you may be planting a seed for when (after we disappear) they may wake up and realize, “This was real, and I just missed it.”

But if you do nothing… they all are lost. Condemned.

Redeem the time, for the days are evil.


If you weren’t a heretic…

you’d write on your own blog.

You wouldn’t go to blogs you already know strongly disagree with you – and correctly denounce you as a heretic – and write entire articles and post them on other people’s blogs as comment spam.

If you weren’t a heretic, you’d do things correctly, above board, and with integrity.

Instead, you hope your comment will go through so people will be misled by your salvation by works heresy, so you can seduce them into your cult.

The very fact your acting without integrity tells me you KNOW you’re preaching salvation by works. That you KNOW you’re a false teacher.

You, sir, are a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You are a serpent, a tool of Satan. You are a heretic, a pawn of the devil, a false apostle. Your actions speak it along with your salvation by works doctrine of devils.

Repent and be saved.

Campbellites Answered 4

Ever hear these names?

  • Sidney Rigdon
  • Parley Pratt
  • Oliver Crowdery
  • Orson Hyde
  • Lyman Wight
  • Edward Partridge
  • John Corril
  • Isaac Morely
  • John Murdock


They’re all early Church of Christ devotees.

Now, the Lord told us, “by their fruits ye will know them.” (Matt. 7:20). If the Cambellites were of God, you’d expect to find a few false converts, because the Bible tells us indeed there would be some.

But all of these men left. All of them. Okay, men become false converts, and leave churches all the time.

All of these men left and became Mormons. If you recognize the names Sidney Rigdon and Orson Pratt, and Oliver Cowdery, you’ll recognize these were Original Witnesses, the men who supposedly saw the golden plates and the angel. Well, their stories changed a lot, so I can’t say for sure.

According to Faith Defenders – and I have no reasons to doubt its veracity – Sidney Rigdon taught the concept of the “restoration” doctrine to Joseph Smith, who borrowed it and improved on it. Except it’s no longer Alexander Campbell who’s the chosen Restorer of God, but instead…. Joseph Smith.

This also explains why the Mormons place a high emphasis upon Baptism, but wrapping the cultic “Baptism of the Dead” concept into it, making it even more weird and cultlike than it is with Campbellites.

It got so bad that Campbell denounced the Mormons as “Satan’s Counterfeit of the Church of Christ.” Which really is bizarre, as the “church of Christ” is in itself Satan’s counterfeit of Christianity.

Now, let’s look at the “Restoration” doctrine. Basically, what this is is the same thing advocated by dozens of cults. The basic premise is – God’s “church” has disappeared. Lost. And one chosen person, a new “messiah” is selected to “restore” it, deliver it.

Like Joseph Smith.

Alexander Campbell

John Dowie

Frank Sandford.

Charles Taze Russell

Ellen G. White

Sung Myun Moon

David Koresh

Marshall Applewhite

Messianic Jews

Michael Rood

The names change, but the doctrines are the same. The “church” supposedly failed, disappeared, lost.

Some special guy has the responsibility, the quest, to retrieve it. To rebuild it, to restore it.

And usually, along with that, the plain sense reading of the Bible that everyone else does, isn’t good enough. Why, there’s some special doctrine that this person alone has found, that is a requirement to salvation.

So, for one thousand eight hundred years, men have been reading the Bible, and never noticed this?

If it’s not cultic, and I’m wrong… well, I was baptized in obedience to the Gospel of Jesus Christ at my Baptist church. That’s good enough, right?

Oh, no – it has to be done at a Campbellite church.

So… how were men saved for almost two thousand years, then?

Sad, really, all those men who died for Christianity, burned alive by Catholics – but they weren’t saved. Like Balthazar Hubmeier, whose very story would have you praising God for such a brave man who risked everything and paid it all. Well, he wasn’t baptized by a Campbellite, so he’s not saved.

Martin Luther… not baptized by a Campbellite.

Neither was Charles Spurgeon.

Nor Matthew Henry.

Matter of fact, so many legendary names, great Bible teachers, men who’ve risked their very lives for the Gospel, or spent their lives preaching, teaching, at the very cost of their health. I’m sure Spurgeon’s death was hastened by his overwhelming work load.

But none of them were Baptized by Campbellites, so any Church of Christ person would have to tell you they weren’t saved. Amazing.

Okay, so, by their fruits will ye know them. Let’s look at all the GREAT Bible teachers who’ve emerged from the Campbellites, whose commentaries have enriched Christians and furthered our knowledge of Bible and doctrine since they came out in the early 19th century.

Wow, that’s an impressive list. None.

The problem with cults, is that you have to put on some kind of rose colored glasses to see the Bible with their eyes. And once you do that, it makes it nearly impossible to write a commentary. Because now you’ve got to explain away all the verses that completely contradict your heresies. And in most cases, the word of God triumphs over cultism.

What’s the big conflict with the Campbell heresies? They disparage the Cross of Christ. The death of Jesus is not enough according to their doctrine. They have to help. So, Jesus Christ is not enough for the Campbellite.

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. John 19:30 (KJV)

The bible says that our salvation is accomplished at the Cross of Christ. No mention is made of the baptismal.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18 (KJV)

The Bible says that the churches of Jesus Christ will never be destroyed, that hell will not prevail.

Didn’t any of these Campbellites read their Bibles? Didn’t any of them immediately think when hearing this nonsense that the bible teaches something different?

If you really want to watch a TV show about Christians, sure, okay. But keep in mind that reality TV is not going to give you anything more than the Duggars, and the only thing that keeps them on TV is the fact there’s so many of them.

But the Duck Dynasty people are Campbellites, not Christians. Christians believe Jesus paid it all.

I may revisit the Church of Christ again in the future. Stay tuned.

Campbellites Answered 3

I found this article some time ago, and knew I’d eventually be addressing the Church of Christ. To read this article in its entirety, please visit This article was originally written by Pastor David Martin of Solid Rock Baptist Church. If you’ve never heard of him, he took part in a 3 day debate with a Church of Christ apologist in 1997.I’m sure they’ll never do that again.

1. According to the history of the “Church of Christ,” God used certain men to “restore” the New Testament Church in the early 1800’s. Where was the true New Testament church before then? Jesus said that the gates of hell would not prevail against His church (Matthew 16:18). What happened to the church and where was the truth it was responsible for preaching before God restored it?

2. If a “Church of Christ” elder refuses to baptize me, will I be lost until I can find one who will? Do I need Jesus AND a Campebllite “preacher” in order to be saved? If I do, then Jesus Christ is not the only Mediator (1 Tim. 2:5) and the Holy Spirit is not the only Administrator (1 Cor. 12:13) of salvation – the “Church of Christ” preacher is necessary to salvation for he is performing a saving act on me when he baptizes me! Is this not blasphemy against Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost?

3. If the water pipes broke and the baptistry was bone dry, would my salvation have to wait until the plumber showed up? If I were to die before then, would I go to hell? If obedience to water baptism is the means of forgiveness of sins, then I would.

4. If my past sins are forgiven when I am baptized in water, and it is possible for me to “lose my salvation” and go to hell after being baptized, then wouldn’t my best chance of going to heaven be to drown in the baptistry?!! – before I had a chance to sin so as to be lost again? If I wanted to be absolutely sure of heaven, isn’t that my best opportunity?

5. If as a Christian I can sin so as to “lose my salvation,” just what sin or sins will place me in such danger? Is it possible to know at what point one has committed such a sin, and become lost again? Please be specific and give clear Bible references.

6. If as a Christian I can fall and “lose my salvation,” is it possible to regain it? If so, how? If God “takes away” my salvation, doesn’t that make Him an “Indian giver”? How could I ever know for sure that I was saved or lost?

7. After becoming a Christian, are there any sins that will put me beyond the “point of no return” so that I cannot regain salvation? What sin or sins will put me in such jeopardy, so that, after becoming a Christian, I would be doomed to hell without any recourse? Please be specific and give me clear Bible references.

8. If I committed some sin -whether in thought, word, or deed, one minute before a fatal car crash – would I go to hell if I did not have time to repent of it? And, please, don’t just say that it’s up to God without giving me a specific Bible reference.

9. Why does the “Church of Christ” insist that their name is scriptural when it cannot be found anywhere in the Bible? The church is referred to as the “church of God” eight (8) times in the Bible, but never is it called the “church of Christ.” The verse they use is Romans 16:16, but it doesn’t say “church of Christ.” Where does the Bible call the church the “church of Christ”?

10. If the “Church of Christ” claims to worship God only as “authorized” by scripture because they sing only (and do not use instrumental music), then where do they get the “authority” to use hymnals, pitchpipes, pews, and indoor baptistries in their worship services? If the answer is that they are “aids to worship,” where does the Bible allow for that? Where is your required authorization? If a pitchpipe can be an “aid to worship” for the song service in the “Church of Christ,” then why can’t a piano be an “aid to worship” for Baptists who may need more help in singing?

11. The “Church of Christ” teaches that a sinner is forgiven of sin when he is baptized in water by a Campbellite elder. Where does the Bible teach that water baptism is required in order to have one’s sins forgiven? Every time the phrase “for the remission of sins” occurs it is speaking of the fact that sins have been forgiven previously! The Bible plainly teaches that the forgiveness of sins is conditioned upon repentance of sin and faith in Christ – never upon water baptism! (Matthew 3:11; Luke 24:47; Acts 3:19; Acts 5:31; Acts 10:43; Acts 20:21; Romans 1:16; Romans 4:5; Where does the Bible teach that forgiveness of sin is linked with water baptism? When Christ made the statement in Matthew 26:28, “for the remission of sins,” it had to be because they had been forgiven all through the Old Testament! Christ shed His blood because God forgave repentant and believing sinners for thousands of years before the Son of God came to “take away” sins and to redeem us and pay the sin-debt with His own precious blood. How can one say that “for the remission of sins” means ‘in order to obtain’ in light of the fact that God never uses the phrase in that sense? In the Old Testament God forgave sin on the basis of a blood sacrifice (Heb. 9:22) – the Old Testament saints had their sins remitted (i.e., forgiven) but they were not redeemed until Christ came and shed His blood at Calvary. Their sins were covered (Romans 4:7; Psalm 32:1), but the sinner was not cleared of his guilt (Exodus 34:7) until the Cross (Heb.10:4). Before Calvary, the sins of believers were pardoned, but they were not paid for (i.e., redeemed) until the crucifixion (see Romans 3:25 and Heb. 9:12-15). When Jesus said, “It is finished,” (John 19:30), all sin – past, present and future – was paid for, and the plan of salvation was completed, so that ‘whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins’ (Acts 10:43). In Acts 2:38, the people were baptized because their sins were forgiven (at Calvary when Jesus said, “Father, forgive them,”) and they received the blessing of forgiveness when they repented of their sin of rejecting Christ and accepted Him as their Saviour and Lord. Friend, heaven or hell depends on what you believe about this.

12. If salvation is not by works of righteousness which we have done, and baptism is a work of “righteousness,” then how can water baptism be a part of salvation? (Titus 3:5; Matt. 3:16) In the Bible, we are SAVED BY GRACE, and grace does not involve human effort or merit – grace is grace and work is work! (Just read Ephesians 2:8,9 and Romans 11:6.)

13. The “Church of Christ” teaches that “obeying the Gospel” includes being baptized in water in order to be saved. If this is true, then how is it that the converts of Acts 10 were saved by faith before and without water baptism? The Bible says in Acts 5:32 that only those who obey God may receive the Holy Ghost – so what did those in Acts 10 do to obey and receive the Holy Ghost and be saved? In the light of Acts 10:34-48, Acts 11:14-18, and Acts 15:7-11, how can anyone honestly believe that water baptism is necessary to salvation? Simon Peter said their hearts were “purified by faith” (Acts 15:9) and that we are saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ like they were (Acts 15:11); that is, before and without water baptism! We know that unsaved people do not receive or have the Holy Spirit (John 14:17; Romans 8:9). We know that the Holy Spirit is given only to those who have believed on Christ (John 7:39). We know that the Holy Spirit seals the believing sinner the moment he puts his faith and trust in Christ as Savior, before he is ever baptized in water (Ephesians 1:12,13). How does the warped theology of Campbellism explain away these clear passages of Scripture without “muddying the waters” of truth and drowning its members in eternal damnation?

The Church of Christ answered By Damon Whitsell

The CoC has went through allot of change in the last 20 years and not all CoC congregations can legitimately be called a Cult. Some are more orthodox than others. Within the CoC those congregations that hold to the belief that the CoC is the “one true church” and teach baptism is a must to be saved – are called “hardliners” or “ultra-conservative”. Two ex-CoC groups claim that the number of congregations that are hardline are 20-70%. I believe from my personal interaction with CoCers online that that number is at least 50% and possibly as much as 80%. I have been debating with CoCers online since 98 when a debate forum on MSN groups was over-run with CoCers and up until about a year ago I never found a single CoCer that was not hardline claiming the CoC to be the one true church and that to be saved you must be baptized into the CoC church.

Here is a FB group where hardliners and non-hardliners debate with each other.

Here are the links to the two debates I have published.

Church of Christ Verses Baptist Debate: IS FAITH A SYNECDOCHE?

The “Church of Christ” Cult/Denomination Reduced To Absurdity by Damon Whitsell

And here is one on Baptismal Regeneration.

***Baptismal Regeneration/Water Baptism Salvation – Reduced to Absurdity***

Have you ever been in a forum and someone post something like this?

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Sometimes they will not even copy and paste the verses and will just list them like this Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, John 3:5 and 1 Peter 3:21 – and rarely do they add any commentary – they just throw them out there like they prove the necessity of baptism for salvation. Not only is this a prime example of proof-texting and contextomony, there is also something very absurd about this methodology that people use to try to prove water baptism is required for salvation.

A Reduction to Absurdity is a form of argumentation that the apostle Paul often employed. Wikipedia states: “A Reductio ad Absurdum (Reduction to Absurdity) is used to demonstrate that a statement is false by showing that a false, untenable, or absurd result follows from its acceptance”. So how does proof-texting in the above manner result in an absurdity? It results in taking a few verses, or sometimes as many as a dozen verses, completely out of context of what the rest of the Bible says about Salvation.

One site counts over 31,000 verses in the OT and NT together. And by myopically focusing on a handful of verses, these are a few things that are omitted by this “water gospel”. God has always had a plan of salvation. That plan is and always has been that salvation is by grace and mercy through faith in Christ.

The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world was slain before the foundations of this world. So we see Gods plan before He formed the earth was that He would send His Son to reconcile the world to Himself. This is played out all the way through scripture. In Genesis we see the gospel of grace in proto-type form when God killed animals (shed blood) to cover Adam and Eve and promised that through their seed the head of the serpent would be crushed. Then we see Abraham being justified before God by faith in Gen. 15, before the law, before he was circumcised (Romans 4) and before he was obedient to offer up Isaac (Gen 20). God would send Jesus to make atonement for sin and the expiation of sin. This is seen in the offering of sacrifices for sin in the OT and is vividly seen in the Day of Atonement which looked forward to Jesus’s fulfillment of the law and the prophets which would fulfil the Salvation Plan of God. By faith they looked forward to Jesus’s atonement and we look back.

And in the NT there is much more overlooked by this proof-texting methodology. In the Book of John (which was written so that we “may know that ye have eternal life”) Jesus says 11 times that those who believe in Him HAVE (present tense) eternal life and HAVE (past tense) moved from death and condemnation to life in Him. There are 4 NT books that focus on salvation Romans, Galatians, Ephesians and Hebrews that all agree salvation is by grace and the sacrifice of Christ. There are well over 100 NT verses that say we are justified or saved by faith in Christ Jesus. There are dozens that say we are not saved by works. And scripture says several times that salvation is a gift from God (Romans 6:23, Ephesians 2:8-9 etc.).

So when you step back and consider all that the scripture says about salvation you can see the absurdity and danger of focusing on a handful of verses.

Some who use this methodology might say “All I have to do is post scripture and you have to prove they don’t mean what they say”. That is flat out wrong. By posting these verses as proof-text the poster has the obligation to prove the doctrine they are asserting by doing so. And when you get down to the nitty gritty and examine their proof-texts none of them actually teach water baptism is necessary to be saved. Some of them are not even speaking of baptism or water at all.

The “Church of Christ” is not the “one true church”! It is a Cult. By Damon Whitsell |

The “Church of Christ” is not the “one true church”! It is a Cult. By Damon Whitsell |

Part Three… I’m not going to reinvent the wheel, I’ll simply refer you all to an excellent article on this phenomenon. Stay tuned, I should have more online on this subject tomorrow!

Campbellites Answered 2

Yesterday, I talked about the sufficiency of the cross to save us.

I talked a little about the mechanism of how we are saved, and types and antitypes. Now, I’m familiar enough with this to note that if I deal with the entire Campbellite doctrine in four or so articles, that sooner or later, some heretic will visit this blog and only read ONE of the articles, and ignore my repeated requests for them to read the entire series. I’ll repeat the request, knowing I’m doomed to having everyone ignore it. Yay!

Okay, resuming where we left off yesterday. The best way to dispel the Campbellite nonsenses is to examine how the mechanics of salvation work. Jesus died, you live.

So let me sum up the points from yesterday, so we can keep track of what’s been discussed.

  • Salvation is a gift of God and not of works lest any man should boast.
  • Salvation was completely and effectually completed by Jesus Christ on the cross.
  • Any cult, denomination or philosophy that disparages the work of Christ on the Cross is faulty at best and heresy at its worst
  • disparaging the Cross of Christi as insufficient to accomplish salvation is perilously close to rejecting the Cross outright according to Phil. 3:18
  • the only requirements for salvation is faith and belief
  • Baptism is a work we do
  • The Bible makes it clear that our salvation is of faith and not of works
  • Christ made it clear it is His blood which is shed for our remission (Matt. 26)
  • whoever believes shall receive the remission (Acts 10)
  • God set forth Jesus Christ that whoever believes shall receive the remission (Romans 3)
  • Without shedding of blood there is no remission (Hebrews 12)
  • Water never had a part in salvation in the Old Testament, it only was used for purification.

Now, again, I can’t speak for Mr. Finnell, but there’s a peculiar twist that Campbellites use – they tend to advocate Hyper-dispensationalism.

Hyper-dispensationalism is a faulty premise. One bible teacher I like to listen to falls into this error. Since I’m aware of it, I simply shake my head and mutter under my breath when he mentions it in his online sermons and teachings.

Hyper dispensationalism was analyzed by Harry Ironside in his book “wrongly dividing”. It basically states that for hyper-dispensationalists, the only Bible for them is after halfway through Acts. Why? It says in Hebrews that the Testament is not in force until the death of the testator. It causes some marked warps in Bible thinking. One of the best books on Revelation is actually written by the inventor of this school of thougt, E. W. Bullinger. This is why many today feel that in the Tribulation you’re saved by grace AND law.

It’s funny though, when you try to pin a Campbellite down on this issue, they get a little slippery. Why? Hyper-Dispensationalism actually refutes a few of their key proof texts. “Well, that part is still applicable today because…”

Now, here’s where I’m going to blow a few of your minds. There is some sound exegesis on the parts of Campbellites. They have correctly noticed that you have to read a portion of Scripture and note when a verse is said, you have to read it to its conclusion. They do this in scenes where no mention of Baptism is mentioned in connection with salvation, and they point and say, “Aha!!!! You see, the jailer/people at Acts 2/Eunuch were all Baptized!”

Yes, they were. But the only flaw is you started from a flawed premise, and as I quoted Tim LaHeye yesterday, a faulty premise ALWAYS guarantees a faulty conclusion.

What is Baptism?

Baptism is the first act of a converted lifestyle. It is the public act of a saved man or woman that Jesus Christ is their Lord and saviour.

What did it mean to the audience who heard it at Acts 2?

Among Jews, Baptism has one meaning, and one meaning alone. Purification.

Observant Jews went to the Mikveh daily. For salvation? Well, the belief is in Judaism you are saved by being observant of the laws of Moses, as taught by the Rabbis. But what’s the purpose of Mikveh? To purify you.

Dishes, spoons knives and other utensils can be placed in a basket and lowered in the water, then back up. Are the dishes being saved? No, purified.

Yesterday we examined the case of the Za’arah, the leper. The leper was not permitted to be baptized (mikveh’d) until he was pronounced clean. This is rich in Typology, a type of the sinful condition of man, sin, repentance, and salvation by faith in Jesus Christ. When you realized you were a Za’arah (leper), you went to the High Priest (Jesus Christ) to be examined (admit your sinful condition). He would pronounce you clean (forgiven, saved) and then you would wash your clothes (be baptized).

So, in Judaism, to be publicly baptized after faith in Jesus Christ meant purification. It meant you were also now a very observant and religious Jew. The early Jewish believers no longer needed to keep the law, but many did at first out of fervor for Jesus Christ, as the New Testament testified in Acts 21:10. As the issue of Galatianism (Judaizing) began to spread, the early believers quickly stopped any keeping of the law, simply to show they were not part of that heresy.

12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:12-13 (KJV)

This verse teaches a crucial concept – Baptism is considered by many the door into the church. That’s what was taught in my Seminary, and apparently in many Baptist seminaries. The body being the local church… then 1 Cor. 12:13 would teach that we are baptized into that body, that local church.

Many Baptist churches hold to this teaching, and entrance to membership is done through baptism, letter from another church of like faith and practice, or by personal statement they’ve already been baptized in a previous church of like faith and practice but don’t have a letter.

This is something that the Campellites do not have. If they teach that Baptism is for salvation, then it is not an entrance into a church.

Tomorrow, we’ll examine more on this issue.