The Pre-Trib Rapture 1


25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. Luke 21:25-28 (KJV)

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:1-3 (KJV)

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11 (KJV)

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:10 (KJV)

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (KJV)

10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10 (KJV)

20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen. Ephesians 3:20-21 (KJV)

30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30 (KJV)

4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory. Colossians 3:4 (KJV)

Events in Order

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:1-3 (KJV)

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-15 (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (KJV)

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:51 (KJV)

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:53 (KJV)

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:10 (KJV)

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (KJV)

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16 (KJV)

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. Matthew 10:42 (KJV)

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality. 14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Romans 12:9-19 (KJV)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21 (KJV)

13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. 1 Thessalonians 3:13 (KJV)

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 (KJV)

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:15-16 (KJV)

8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. 2 Timothy 4:8 (KJV)

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Hebrews 9:28 (KJV)

8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. James 5:8 (KJV)

4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 1 Peter 5:4 (KJV)

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:10 (KJV)

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 1 John 2:28 (KJV)

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. Jude 1:14-15 (KJV)

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Revelation 22:12 (KJV)

The Tribulation

1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:1-3 (KJV)

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:14-15 (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (KJV)

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (KJV)

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:51 (KJV)

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:53 (KJV)

10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:10 (KJV)

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (KJV)

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 5:16 (KJV)

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. Matthew 10:42 (KJV)

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality. 14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Romans 12:9-19 (KJV)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21 (KJV)

The Soon Coming Rapture 2


Yay! Another Rapture article. These cheer me up.

Let’s say that I could list every Bible verse proving the Rapture is Pre-trib. Let’s say I can do expository Bible study on the ENTIRE BIBLE, proving the Pre-Trib rapture – and don’t convince a single person (which is what would happen, because people love ideologies, not truth).

What then?

I’m counting on all of you post-trib, mid-trib, no-trib and Pre-wrath believers to stock up food. Supplies. Ammo. Tools.

Why?

Because when, to your embarassment, you are raptured.. all those supplies will be left behind.

For people who within a few months… are going to desperately need them.

If you stock up for them now… lives will be saved. If you don’t… people will die.

Horrible to meet someone in heaven, and ask… “how did you die?”

“I starved to death. And there was no water.”

And you hang your head thinking, “I meant to stockpile for people left behind.” Well, don’t open your mouth and admit it, I guess!

And if you REALLY believe that despite the Bible, you believe you personally are going through the Tribulation… buddy, you’d better get busy and stockpile now. Because after the midpoint, you need the Number of the Beast to buy food.

So, how long is it going to take for you to buy everything you need? quite a while.

You may not have that much time to do it.

The Soon Coming Rapture


It takes roughly 45-90 minutes to write articles on how to do sermons, so those who’ve been interested in the series, my apologies – but I’ve been so busy that lately I’ve only been able to keep up because I can write seven articles quickly on a weekend.

To mention the Rapture in modern Christianity is like pulling a knife and darking people to fight you! I can think of few topics that engender such arguments and name caling as… this topic.

To those who do not agree… you have the absolute right to be wrong. I’ll tell you you’re wrong. I’ve described the issue of the Rapture as being the canary that coal miners in Wales used to detect deadly gas in the mines. If the birds collapsed, everyone knew to get out as fast as possible.

SAme here. When your eschatology (doctrines of the end times) begins to wander, it’s a sign EVERYTHING is beginning to wander. Am I saying the myriads of Independent, Fundamentalist Baptist preachers who have adopted an unScriptural Mid-Trib position are losing a pure doctrinal stance?

Why… yes. That’s exactly what I’m saying. You have not kept your doctrine without spot. You’ve listened to vain and foolish tales, and adopted the vain philosohpy of this world, instead of a reliance upon pure Scripture.

I’ve mentioned before the explanation of a man who had the right viewpoint of the Rapture. He was asked by his nephew if he was SURE the Rapture was before the Tribulation. His response was classic, and one that those who hold incorrect Eschatologies always miss…

“What is the point of the Tribulation?”

For many Christians, they’ll suddenly go quiet, and all you’ll hear is, “Uhhhh……”

The way I’ve described it is this. I’ve pointed to a church congregation (nicely split down the middle thanks to the aisle…) That… God spoke and dealt with this side over here, for 2,000 years. But that means THAT side isn’t being dealt with. Okay, God’s temporarily turning to THAT side. But the book of Revelation (not Revelations) shows that suddenly God’s focus is back on THIS group again, and THAT group suddenly seems to be missing.

Why is THAT group missing? Because God’s now returning to THIS group, who’s been somewhat rebellious. So, to reach them, He’s going to give the only thing they respond to…

…signs.

Okay, when you substitute the words “Gentiles” and “Jews” for THAT and THIS, it makes perfect sense. God dealt with the Jews for 2,000 years. Then the Lord came ,and the Jews are temporarily put away.

Note the word temporary.

“Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?” (Romans 11:12–15, KJV)

Read verse 15 and verse 12 again. How much more their fulness? What shall the receiving of them be?

God is not “Through with the Jew.”

“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.” (Romans 11:25, KJV)

What does this mean? spiritually, it means… blindness is happening in part to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

If anyone wants to argue, here we go with Greek! πλήρωμα Pleroma means fulness, completeness. When the complete number of those Gentiles who will accept Christ is reached before the Tribulation, then the Lord will come. What’s that number? Clearly, we see from other passages of Scripture that the number is… I don’t know.

Does this argue in favor of Calvinism? No it argues in favor of Baptist doctrine (there’s no such thing as a Calvinist Baptist – it’s like saying a Carpenterish plumber) – God predestines according to foreknowledge. God knows in advance who will accept the Gospel and who will not.

Can you imagine being in the Millennium, and attending the Temple, and you’re talking about “I wonder who the last Gentile was to make the Fulness complete?” and at that moment the Lord is standing with you and He says… “Why… it was you.”

We should all feel that way. Well, I can’t, because I’m not a Gentile. But there. You Gentiles should all feel that way – you personally are the one the Lord was waiting eagerly for.

Where am I going with this? God turns His attention from the Jewish people to the Gentiles, then He will return His attention back to Israel during the Tribulation. So… where did the Gentiles go?

It’s a well attested fact – often completely ignored by Mid and Post Tribulationists – that the word church and churches is used 21 times in Revelation 1-3, and then not again until the very end of the book.

The rules of Hermaneuticsc demand we pay attention to that. It tells us something.

“Aha! But Holy omes and Saints can be found!”

Sure. That’s the Jews and all the Gentiles who get saved in the Tribulation. But the fact remains, the word church is missing for most of the book, until after the Lord returns.

There’s two open doors in Revelation – immediately after the final mention of the churches, and then not again until the Lord and His armies begin to travel back to the earth.

And then after that, it’s Israel, and Tribe… the 144,000 are from the tribes of Israel. They are those who “keep the commandments”.

“Matthew 24!”

You’re not understanding Matthew 24. Read it again. You’ll spot that the Lord gatheres His elect from the four corners of HEAVEN. They’re already in Heaven at that point.

The bottom line is this – if you believe in mid trib, post trib, pre-wrath, no-trib… you do not distinguish between the Gentile and the Jew. You confuse the words churches and Israel. Yet an honest reading of Romans differentiates between the two. If the Bible differentiates between Israel and the churches… so should we.

NOW, with that understanding, go read all of Revelation 7 times in a row. Won’t take long. Only 22 chapters. By the time you’re done, here’s your study questions…

Where are the churches?

Who is Israel?

Who is Revelation speaking of and to, mostly?

What is God’s method in the Tribulation?

Does it resemble the manner in which God dealt with Israel in the Old Testament? Or how God communicates with the churches in the New?

If you agree it resembles how God dealt with Israel in the Old Testament when they were Rebellious… what then does this lead you to conclude? Who is Revelation speaking to?

It’s speaking to my people. We’re a little stubborn. And trust me, it’s going to take the seas turning to blood to get most of Israel to admit that the Rabbi’s are wrong, and Jesus is the Messiah.

It’s going to take demonic attacks that leave people in agony for months.

It’s going to take hail that sets fires.

Start comparing Revelation to Exodus.

If you honestly study Revelation (for which there are blessings promised)… you will come to only one conclusion. It’s speaking of the Jewish people.

And the Gentile churches have… vanished.

The Pre-Trib Rapture 10 – Margaret McDonald


Reposting this… since I first posted it a while ago, and thoroughly debunked this – mid and post tribbers are AGAIN saying that Margaret McDonald invented the pre-trib rapture.

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Just about every mid-trib, post trib or no-trib website always brings up Margaret McDonald.

Okay, let’s get that out of the way.

We’re constantly pointing out that there is nobody alive convinced of the rapture because of Margaret McDonald. Todd Strandberg did an article a few years back, about how he finally searched for this legendary girl who claims to have had a mystic vision in which, for the first time, someone saw a pre-trib rapture.

Huh.

Okay, research here is the key. Todd Strandberg reports it almost was a “Where’s Waldo?” search, except that in the “Where’s Waldo” puzzles, he’s always right there where you can see him. In this case, it’s clear NONE of these anti-Rapture advocates have EVER researched the claim. Or, extremely embarrassed, they’d have withdrawn the claim.

For starters, her “Vision” is post-trib.

“uhhhh… wait, I’d always heard she saw a pre-trib rapture.”

Nope.

So, you guys have made SO MUCH about her vision – and you NEVER EVEN READ IT! What amazes me is that Roman Catholic apologists always make snide remarks about a vision… but if she’d been a Roman Catholic, and the Virgin Mary had been central in it, there’d be pilgrimages, flowers, rosary beads, candles and incense offered at the place of MacDonald’s birth! Look, if your religion thrives on visions, attacking a straw man of visions is ill advised. Glass houses, stones, all that.

What’s the vision?

“I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation. Now will the wicked one be revealed with all power…It will be a fiery trial…Nothing but what is of God will stand…I said, Now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth; and nothing but Christ in US can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive…This is the trial through which those are to pass, who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of Man…The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit – have the light of God within you, that you may DETECT satan…”

Um… this is post trib. That’s consistent with the teachings of the Irvingites, whom MacDonald belonged to. So, her prophecy was play-acting, to make her seem important – she’d learned their doctrine well, and to have her seeing a mystic vision that confirmed the teachings of the group was seized on. Amazingly, it reminds me of Seventh Day Adventism and Ellen G. White’s odd visions, that changed with the wind.

How can I say it’s post trib??? Well, the Irvingites were post trib. And MacDonald mentions the Antichrist, released in the first Seal – which is during the tribulation. “The trial of the church is from Antichrist… this is the trial through which those are to pass…”

Um… if the churchES are to be tried by the antichrist, well then, that places the rapture AFTER the Antichrist is done – which is at Christ’s second coming!

So… maybe Pre-Trib believers should be turning that around to attack post-tribbers, claiming “You all got it from the visions of a Scottish girl!” See how they like having to defend it!

There. Aren’t you post-tribbers embarrassed??? You made ALL THIS NOISE about MacDonald, viciously attacking that straw man argument… only to find out SHE SUPPORTS YOU, NOT PRE-TRIB BELIEVERS!

Hah!

Next, we fail to see any quote from the person they say was the first advocate of the Pre-trib rapture, John Darby. Darby did advocate a pre-trib Rapture – but he tells how he was able to figure that out. It occurred to him as he studied the Bible that there was a difference between the churches and Israel. Once he’d understood that, it took little work to read through Revelation and see that suddenly the churches disappear from the earth, and God is working through Israel again. So, if there’s a difference between the churches and Israel, and Revelation starts out talking to the churches, then suddenly switches to Israel, and the churches cannot be found again until the end of Revelation – that means the BIBLE IS CLEARLY TEACHING THAT THE CHURCHES GO SOMEWHERE ELSE DURING ALMOST ALL OF REVELATION!

Sorry, don’t mean to shout, but the post-tribbers aren’t listening.

So, was Darby the first teacher of the Rapture?

Nope. A Southern Baptist preacher, who also agreed that MacDonald’s vision was post trib, first offered $500 for anyone who could offer proof of a pre trib rapture prior to 1830. He had to retract his offer when he found the writings of Emmanuel Lacunza. Lacunza taught it back in 1812. So the Baptist pastor, John Bray, offered the prize again, but this time before 1812.

He lost the money when someone gave him proofs of a book from 1744 published in England that taught a pre-trib rapture.

Well, what about this quote from before the year 370?

“For all the saints and Elect of God are gathered prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overtake the world because of our sins.”

Ephraem of Nisibis wrote that, an early Christian writer of the Syrian Christians.

That’s.. a long time ago. It’s clearly pre-trib. Its clearly before the year 400. It’s an early Christian writer. And Juistin Martyr apparently was pre-trib as well, placing the teaching as far back as prior to AD 100.

Huh.

Looks like the church was ALWAYS pre-trib, and that abandoning this belief was moving from the previously held position – apostasy.

Looks like you post-tribbers have some explaining to do.

Reasons why the Rapture is pre-trib


This is a popular subject as of late – and the reason why is simple. I think Christians sense that the time may be drawing nigh. There’s a million blogs which fall into about 4 different interpretations. The ONLY position which makes a distinction between Israel and the churches, is dispensational, and is literalist (takes the Bible literally) is…

Pre-Trib.

To place “The Church” in the middle of the Tribulation, indeed, anywhere after Revelation 4, has to confuse or replace Israel with “the Church”. I always say it this way because the number of references in the Bible to the word “Church” identifies the word church to a local, visible entity. There is only one verse which can be interpreted either way. Since the Bible is careful to identify the church as a local institution, and uses the title “kingdom of God” or “kingdom of heaven” to refer to all believers as a group… I do the same.

“The church” is not Israel. Israel is Israel. The church is a local institution of assembled, born again believers that may be Jewish (usually the minority) or Gentile (usually the overwhelming majority). Gentile Christians are grafted INTO believing Israel, but do not REPLACE believing Israel. I could write a very long and very confusing series of articles on this issue – confusing because I’d have to use English, which is pretty slippery, to write it. Now if I wrote it in Koine Greek, it would be a lot more specific, but then only a handful of people could read it. And my Koine is pretty rusty, as my classes in it were 5 years ago.

How can I write these things?

1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 7:1-3 (KJV)

This happens really early on in the Tribulation. Who is the servants of God? Some people say this is “The Church” because it refers to the servants of our God.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. 6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. 7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. 8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. Revelation 7:4-12 (KJV)

These are… Jews. The first reference to believers after Revelation 4 is a description of Jews. What tribe are you from?  That’s the question I ask any Gentile who tries to appropriate this for themselves. It’s stumped a few Jehovah’s Witnesses, by the way.

Let’s look at the Immanency issue. The Rapture is imminent. To say it comes at (X) point in the Tribulation means we can… pretty much guesstimate it’s time. “No man knows the day or hour” is what the Bible says. So if you say it’s midpoint – Voila, it’s 3.5 Jewish years after the signing of the peace treaty, Ta-Da! I know the day and hour. That rules it out from being the time of the Rapture.

If it was the third seal, then it’s roughly three months times 3 after the peace treaty – nine months later. Sixth Trumpet? It would be  roughly 39 months after the peace treaty.

How about the two doors? A door opens in heaven in Revelation 4:1, and does not re-open until Christ returns to earth. Open door number 1 – the Rapture. Open Door number 2 – the return.

The word “Church” is  used many times in Revelation 1-3. It disappears in Revelation 4 and is not seen again until after the Lord has returned to the Earth.

John is a type of the Christian in Revelation. HE gets Raptured in Revelation 4:1, and accompanies the Lord on His way back to the Earth.  If John gets raptured at that time, why are we any different?

We are told to look for the Rapture and the Return of Christ. We are never told to look for the Antichrist.

Finally (this is a quick article, I’ve written much longer articles on the Rapture previously, loaded with information) there is no resurrection of the dead mentioned in any point of Revelation until the Judgment. So either it’s post-trib (which explains nothing) or it’s pre-trib.

I’ve written MUCH longer articles on this subject in the past! Just click on the Rapture category, and keep scrolling down and sooner or later, you’ll reach the first one. By the time you’ve read every article on it… you’ll be convinced, or really sleepy, because it’s going to take a LONG time to get through all those articles.

Really.


Just when I was thinking about writing about something else, an article on SermonAudio got me going.

“Should Pre-tribbers give up?” Okay, wait a  minute. Should we give up what? Believing in a sound, obviously Biblical doctrine? Give up speaking about it? Give up defending it? Give up writing about it? What??? Speak up!

Okay, let’s try this headline and see if it makes any sense to you… “Should Bible Believers give up?” Makes no sense, does it?

The little of the article that SermonAudio listed seemed flawed from its very premise. Perhaps it was supporting the Rapture. I don’t know. All I know is that it made the claim (incorrect) that the vast majority of Christians are Dispensational, Pre-trib believers. No, that’s not quite the case.  The last statistic I saw on it  showed that slightly more than half of Christians have that doctrinal stance. And no wonder its not “most Christians”, because we’re smack dab in the Laodecian age, and correct doctrinal understanding is fading fast.

We may yet see the vast majority of “Christians” reject a belief in the Bible, the deity of Christ, and the virgin birth before the year is out!

The slipping belief in the Pre-trib rapture, as I wrote just a couple of days ago, is a canary. If you begin to believe in mid-trib or post trib or “pre-wrath”, it’s a huge warning sign that you’re slipping doctrinally.

And I fully expect mainstream Christianity to find themselves caught flat footed by the Rapture. Many, many, many will discover they were left behind because they followed unScriptural Evangelism messages, and trusted in a formula, or walking up an aisle. or raising your hand, or writing your name on an envelope, or getting your forehead wet as a baby. So it’s no surprise that it’s not an overwhelming majority that believes in the Pre-trib rapture, because the overwhelming majority of mainstream Christianity probably is not saved.

It’s been discussed a lot that when “Crusades” supposedly get 10,000 signatures, but only 3 or 4 actually show up in churches for more than a month, that you only got 3 or 4 converts. I don’t care how many cards got filled out.

So, there’s millions and millions of people in the US that think because you walked an aisle, or heard sad music play while emotional appeals were made to be saved and they got emotional and walked an aisle, and were coached in a “repeat after me” prayer they really didn’t understand or mean… that they’re saved.

Guess who’s going to be in total shock an hour after the Rapture? Yup. All of them.

Funny thing is, there’s going to be a lot of very embarrassed Baptists who did get raptured, and had put up WordPress blogs insisting on only believing in a “pre-wrath” position.

Trust me if you’re one, I’m going to poke fun at you while we’re seated at the Marriage Supper together. good news is, you’re going to laugh along.

Canaries


150 years ago, coal miners in the UK and US used to carry Canaries with them into the mines. One person held the lamp  and also watched the canaries. If they broke through a vein to an area with radon gas or other dangerous gases that could kill the miners, the canaries would drop first. The minute they saw the canaries in distress, the man with the light sounded the alarm. The Canaries’ tolerance to the gas was so much less, that even if they showed any signs of lethargy the miners escaped the mines.

There’s one major doctrine that I liken to the canary. If your doctrine is suffering, this is where it shows up first.

The Rapture.

The minute Christians begin to worry that they might have to go through part of or all of the Tribulation, you should be fleeing to your Bible.

I’ve recounted many times on this blog numerous proofs for the Pre-trib rapture. The proofs are Scriptural, numerous, and uncontestable. I liken most of the rebuttals to one of several usual problems – replacement theology, anti-semitism (that’s Jew-hating, for those of you who wish to be contentious), or a complete misunderstanding of foundational doctrinal understandings. You pick.

When I mention that the word “Church” cannot be found between Revelation 4-20 (in other words, during the Tribulation) someone always answers “But it mentions saints.”

Okay, … that’s Revelation chapter 8. Who is it talking about in Revelation 7?

1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Revelation 7:1-4 (KJV)

The children of Israel. Those are Jews.

Every once in a while, I see people suddenly start talking at this point about the Khazars, and Ashkenazi Jews.

If you just went there, you’re a Jew-hater. Or Anti-Semite, if that sounds too bold for you.

usually about fifth or sixth down on the list of Christian doctrinal health is your position on Jews. If you hate Jews, you really need to carefully read Matthew 24. It’s um… talking about them. If the judgment of the righteous nations at the end of the Tribulation is based partly on how the Gentiles treat the Jews… don’t you think you may have to answer to the King of the Jews about your hatred of them?

I bring this up often because… people search often to see what Franklin Graham thinks of the Rapture. Hopefully, you’re all just looking for a quote to use in some kind of thesis or something. I’d hate to think some of you are looking to see what some man believes, so you know what to believe!

Since I put up a link to that news story, I’ve had at least two to three searches a week for “Franklin Graham on the Rapture”. It’s one of the top searches leading people to my blog.

if you’re one of them, I have a LOT of material on the Pre-trib rapture, and why it’s the ONLY BIBLICAL position you can take on the End times. Please – take the time to open your Bible, and look for yourself.