Seventh Day Adventism Answered 20


Some random questions for any member of the SDA…

What authority gave Ellen G. White the authority to lead the SDA church? Why did no one object to her assuming control?

Does the SDA church deny today that they teach that Jesus is the archangel Michael?

Do they deny that they are indeed the authors of the Jehovah’s Witnesses heresies?

there are major errors associated with the SDA’s. So many in fact that they conflicgt with orthodox christian doctrines in areas of theology, christology, pneumatology, soteriology, hamartiology, angelology…. almost every area of doctrine.

I would submit that the differences remain so great that the SDA cannot be considered Christian, but rather a pagan religion or a cult. Loosely organized and poorly controlled, but still a cult.

What test prophecy did Ellen G. White give before the Adventists accepted her as a prophet?

Error led to the SDa accepting Ellen G as a prophet, this in turn led to accepting a host of doctrinal errors.

SDA denies today that they originally did not believe Jesus is God.

Ellen G. White accepted the Trinity, but her husband James White did not.

Is this not a conflict? If she truly was a prophet of God as James White taught others, then would he not have simply accepted what she taught on this issue?

And is this not a conflict that she claimed (in violation of Scripture) to speak with him and be guided by him after he died? We know that any who deny the Trinity will not inherit the kingdom of God. So, either she was a false prophet from the start, as I have maintained from the start, or the James white manifestation was a demon. In that latter case, the writings of Ellen G. White cannot be the equal of Scripture, nor can they complete them as the SDA maintain.

At what point was she misled by a demonic apparition? If she was a prophet, why did she not realize he was a demon?

Why would she speak to the dead, when if she was a prophet she would have known that this was forbidden by Scripture?

If she was mistaken, she cannot be a prophet. If she was lying, she cannot be a prophet. If she was misled, she cannot be a prophet. The only hope for the SDA church now is to deny that the spirit of James White came to Ellen G. White after his death and descent into Hell, and claim the stories were forged. In which case we would have a different problem then – which of her writings are authentic and which are forgeries???

doctrinal error leads to doctrinal error. If the seed is corrupt, so too will the fully grown plant from that seed.

If William Miller was wrong right from the start, so too will everything that grew out of it, including the SDA, which doctrinally is as full of error as Miller’s other offspring the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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Seventh Day Adventism Answered 13


We’ve been looking at the doctrine of the SDA, in a quote from their own statement of faith. This is one reason I urge you examine someone’s statement of faith, so you know what they really believe. Don’t skim it – there’s enough proof here that the SDA is a cult and teaching heresy, that NO christian should be believing that the SDA is a form of Christianity.

From the SDA website…

In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent.

I’d really like to deal with this investigative judgment more, now that we threw soul sleep out the window, along with Anhilationism.

Here’s how salvation really works. We have to lay this out so that you can see how this compares to the SDA version.

Salvation is a gift of God.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)

We are saved by grace through faith.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (KJV)

Ye must be born again.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3 (KJV)

The judgment is this… believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, accepting him, being born again and getting saved.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18 (KJV)

If you get saved, the judgment reads… “not guilty.” we have imputed righteousness from the Lord Jesus Christ. He declares us righteous, because He is righteous, and he bestows this as a free gift.

If you persist in refusing Christ until you die… you will not be found “not guilty.” rather, you’ll be declared guilty. the sentence is eternal punishment.

So, what’s the Great White Throne judgment about?

The degree of punishment. The believer’s judgment happens at the Rapture, and we are all given rewards based upon our service to Christ. In reality, its because He wants to reward us, because we haven’t earned a single, blessed thing.

The Great White Throne judgment? based on one’s sinful acts, the degree of agony you experience in Hell is determined.

no believer in Christ gets any judgment at the Great White throne. We’re dealt with at salvation and the believer’s judgment.

now that you’ve seen how it’s explained… where’s this investigative judgment?

Let’s look again at all the verses saying at some point in the future that Christ would have a second and final job to perform…

There are none.

So, if the unbelievers die and are judged at that moment, and if Christians are saved at the moment they are born again, tell me again what this investigative judgment is all about?

Why, your works!

The Seventh Day Adventist cult is teaching salvation by works, while paying lip service to salvation by grace. In other words, they teach one thing while proclaiming another. That’s hypocrisy. Another word for it would be lying. Kind of like their enemies, the Roman Catholic “church”.

The implication in their statement of faith is that we’ve crossed into a new dispensational age, where believers are required to keep the commandments of God and grace to be born again.

According to Galatians, the two are polar opposites, not mutual factors.

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV)

Read these next words carefully.

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 2:16 (KJV)

for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Ellen G. White taught salvation by faith and works combined.

She is under the curse in this verse.

Meaning, that if you do get saved, when you get to heaven… you won’t be seeing her there.

The SDA church used to always say back in the 19th century that her visions were either of God or of Satan. I just proved her teachings were not of God.

20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20 (KJV)

This means if you’ve read this and you are SDA, then you’re now accountable. If you do not repent and become saved, you will follow Ellen G. White straight into the lake of fire.

The investigative judgment is to see if you joined the remnant church (true churchism heresy), meaning of course the SDA, if you were keeping the commandments of God (salvation by works heresy) and following Ellen G. White (the cult leader heresy).

How is this not a cult??? they teach damnable heresies, and when I do a search on “is Seventh Day Adventists a cult?” I get hundreds of results of “We accept them as Christians, but we’re a little worried about Ellen G. White…”

No, that’s completely wrong. We don’t accept them as Christians. Cults always disparage the person of Christ (Christ as Michael the Archangel), the cross of Christ (the “investigative judgement”, along with “the sins of makind placed upon Satan” – these are both rank heresies).

This is a cult. Following it can lead you to hell.

Tomorrow, we’re going to look at Galatians verse by verse. I’ve done this with Messianics and with Jehovah’s Witnesses. It’s important, because the SDA only acknowledges the Sabbath and vegetarianism publicly – even though there’s a lot more to the Commandments than that!

Seventh Day Adventism Answered 10


From the SDA website…

In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry ofChrist will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent.

One thing this quote talks about is soul sleep.

8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: 28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:19-31 (KJV)

This is what we call a “Bottom line” issue. The Bible says it, there you go. The Bible describes Hell as “Burning”. The Rich man in Luke 16 is in flames, burning, and not disappearing. So “Annihilation” is not a Biblical concept. Neither is “soul Sleep”. Abraham and Lazarus and the Rich Man seem pretty aware. The rich man is in so much agony that he begs even for a fingertip’s worth of water. Hell is described as Torment.

Is a grave, cold earth with a box in it, burning? Does it heat? Do you crave water from laying inside a box that’s inside cool earth? Do dead men who’s souls supposedly have ceased to be aware cry out in torment? The obvious answer ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES is “No.”

I would think that this would explain the difference. What happened in the Old Testament was that the righteous went to Abraham’s Bosom, and the wicked into Hell.

4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid. 5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me. Psalm 18:4-5 (KJV)

If you’re asleep, insensate, unaware, then… how can death be sorrowful?

8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. Psalm 139:8 (KJV)

Verse 8 is again a descriptive, showing the omnipresence of God almighty.

5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell. Proverbs 5:5 (KJV)

27 Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death. Proverbs 7:27 (KJV)

18 But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell. Proverbs 9:18 (KJV)

11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men? Proverbs 15:11 (KJV)

24 The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath. Proverbs 15:24 (KJV)

14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:14 (KJV)

20 Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied. Proverbs 27:20 (KJV)

ALL of these verses speak of Hell as a place of punishment, as the abode of those who die. Every one of the following verses all clearly speak of this doctrine, of the punishment of the sinner in eternal hellfire, as well as Satan and his fallen angels.

How can Hell be a torment… if you’re unaware?

42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. Luke 23:42-43 (KJV)

How is heaven paradise… if you’re unaware? Don’t these verses completely shatter your theory?