What’s the difference between Logos Baptist Gold and Logos Standard Bronze?


I thought I’d bring this up, because I’m looking into what the actual benefits would be… I’ve spent probably $450-500 on Logos? I can’t remember. I’ve spent $50 on various books, and I got some “compression pay” in one year that was a lot of money, and my wife advised I use it on Logos, because she knew I wanted it and couldn’t afford it.

So, I’ve got an extensive Logos library, and it’s great. I’ve described how I got Logos 6 Baptist Starter, then upgraded to Logos 7 Standard starter. Then since I got Logos 6 right before the upgrade, they gave me an upgrade for free. So I chose Logos 7 Standard Bronze. I’ve mentioned before I would only get the Baptist packages from here on out, so I’d need to get Logos 7 Baptist Bronze (I think it’s $190 for me), then Logos Baptist Silver, and possibly Gold.

So, what would I get by doing this upgrade? I’m already at the max in terms of Logos features, a big change between Logos 6 and 7. You used to have to buy the Gold package to have all the cool features. Not anymore – once you have Bronze, you have it all.

Which is good, because Bronze is expensive. Gold is really expensive. Platinum is about a thousand dollars, which is roughly about 4 years salary for an IFB preacher. Okay, I’m exaggerating, but even if an IFB church were to offer me a pastor’s position, I’d have to decline it on the grounds I can’t afford the cut in pay!

I’m really serious. And that’s a massive denunciation of the IFB movement – the Bible enjoins us that those who labour in the word and preach well are worthy of double pay. So if an IFB pastor (who should be paid about 50K a year) preaches well, the Bible says you should double their pay.

Do the math.

Anyway! I’m digressing wildly as usual. Lack of sleep and caffiene together equals a Narrow is the Way Blog post!

Getting back on track (my longtime readers are laughing right now – this probably brings back a lot of memories of my early days), what would I get by paying $350 or so to get Gold?

That’s almost doubling what I’ve paid so far, by the way…

Nothing in the way of modern translations. I’m maxed out on those. Which is good, because if they were actual hardcover volumes, they’d have cobwebs so thick on them you’d need a machete to get to them! I think I’ve looked at them maybe six times. Mostly the CJB, because I wanted to see how heretical Stern had become, and yup, that’s a serious mass of stinking heresy in there.

I need more sleep. I love my cat. He’s just laying in his cat bed, looking like a happy little pig.

I WOULD get a lot of original manuscripts! I’ve already got the Textus Receptus, but I’d get the other two TR manuscripts (elzevir and I can’t remember the other). So that’s cool. I’m annoyed I’ve got Vaticanus on my hard drive. That should be a Logos Now subscription thig, so I could get it then let my subscription lapse, and watch satisfied as Vaticanus flies away.

Bye bye! (waves)

I need sleep.

Id get a TON of books on preaching. Wow. It’s like the Baptists are known for preaching, which is funny, because from what I’ve heard, most Baptists couldn’t preach their way out of a mummified paper bag that someone dumped water on.

And apparently I’d get everything Charles Spurgeon ever wrote, including grocery lists.

I see a lot of benefits to it, and I wouldn’t have to deal with every issue of Themelios, and a hundred commentary books on Pseudopigrapha, and the entire library of the Cairo Geniza.

Okay, I’ve stopped making sense. Time to go lie down for a nap.


Two Weeks with Logos part 2


I’m enjoying the time with Logos.
I will say this!

I think that unless I absolutely had money to burn, I would never get Logos Standard Platinum. Maybe Logos Baptist platinum, but definitely not any more Standard packages higher than this one.

I don’t know why! Ok, kidding, I know why.

The largest number of volumes in this seem to be post-Nicene “Fathers”. Ante-nicene “fathers”. The Cairo Geniza manuscripts. Pseudopigrapha. Commentary on the Pseudopigrapha (Nobody cares!). The volumes of Themelios. Roman Catholic guide to saints. Catholic liturgy. I’d say probably 45% of what downloaded onto my computer for the trial was useless to me. I might poke at it because I’ve got a strong Apologetics streak running through me.

But I’d say, yeah, almost half of what downloaded was garbage.
I don’t remember off hand what’s in the Baptist package, but I’m inclined to say, if it’s anything like the Platinum package, I don’t need it. I think Logos Baptist Silver is about as high as I’ll go.

Unless they hire me and I can put together a Fundamentalist package, then you better BELIEVE I’m going to get the Platinum Fundamentalist package!

There is a number of other books they have on Preaching. Those I’d read. So, it’s pretty much only half usable to me, which really doesn’t justify the kind if money Logos wants for it.


The 10 days with Jonah I’m doing again, as I mentioned. Hopefully, some of you are doing it with me. Somehow, it created a automatic reading plan, wihch is an issue, because I’d already done it once, then Logos tried to do it again back in July. I’d just marked it completed, and deleted it. But here it is back again, and because it was made by Logos, I can’t edit the dates of it.

It’s the first real glitch I’ve had with Logos, really. That’s pretty good. Much better than the info window crash of Wordsearch 11, which pretty much makes it useless as a tool.

If you’re following with the 10 days of Jonah thing, be sure to go over and leave comments on the Faithlife group page for the free trial. Lesson #3 was all about reading it in multiple translations, which of course was to introduce the “compare translations” tool. Personally, that’s a really nifty tool for a Fundamentalist, but not in the way they intend! I could seriously go on to my Doctorate, and actually include a lot of information on the doctrinal superiority of the King James Bible. Comparing translations means basically accepting the validity of Codex Vaticanus, which most Fundamentalists are not prepared or willing to do.

However, I will say I’ve actually learned quite a bit – and I’ve got a degree in Pastoring – doing the 10 days with Jonah. The “mark all repeated words” assignment showed me that there is quite a bit of repeated words, deliberately. It’s part of contrastive thinking, the fingerprint of God in the Bible,

Okay, I’ve rambled enough for a day. For once, this was like a real blog and not a newspaper column!

Two Weeks With Logos Platinum


Today starts my two weeks with Logos Platinum.It took over an hour last night for some 475 books to be downloaded, and then since it happened late last night (9 pm) I wasn’t up long enough for Logos to index, which is to go through all of the myriads of coding and install it.

My immediate take away impression is that… that’s a lot of stuff. Logos Platinum is pretty much forever beyond the reach of Baptist pastors, just because it’s about another $1,000 beyond what I’ve already spent – and I’ve spent several hundred dollars on it (and a free upgrade by Logos!). Logos is not the most expensive Bible program (that honor goes to Accordance), but from what I saw of what was being downloaded onto my computer was a lot of stuff that I’ll never need or get to, like scholarly peer review journals and Academic Journals (Themelios).

Maybe, just maybe I’d go through and read the Themelios journals, but I’m also loaded down with things like the Ante-Nicene writings and the “Church Fathers”. Why I would need that, I don’t know. Perhaps I could use the Ante-Nicene writings, but the problem is, apostasy set in VERY quickly into the early churches, and quoting from any of them could be problematic. How do I know which of the Ante-Nicene fathers believed in Baptismal Regeneration, for example? That heresy was setting in by 200 AD, and you’d have to slowly piece together by reading everything John Chrysostom wrote in detail to detect it.

There is a certain amount of glee in seeing hundreds of commentaries being downloaded. The one thing I’m doing this time during this two weeks is going through the “Jonah” study course again… And this time literally doing the exercises along with it. Last time I just watched it, nodded a lot, made sarcastic comments a lot (Lord, that’s a flaw in my character, please remove that!), and winced as the man leading the videos keeps recommending one theological liberal after another. Birds of a feather.

If you’re doing this trial along with me, then consider doing the Jonah study as well. I’d already made markups like he’s explaining in video one, and if you’ve done those separately, all you have to do is duplicate your markup, then move it to the “Observation” markup as he suggests. Everything is done through the triangle on the right hand side.

Right now, 43% of my computer resources are being used up by Logos as I wait for it to finish indexing. If you open Logos and the indexing is not done, expect it to take perhaps an hour to do all that. The program looks frozen, but it’s not. If you’ve got an HP, you’ll need to go for a jog or something. I’ve got a Dell, which is much faster.

I probably shouldn’t have done the two week free trial, because I’m afraid I’m going to love the massively expanded library. I do wish Logos would have asked everyone which library they wanted to try (since apparently someone at Faithlife is reading my blog, but they’ve yet to say, “Hey, we could use a good Fundamentalist working here!”), because they gave me the wildly ecumenical Evangelical package (That’s Logos Standard Platinum). I would have asked for the Baptist package, because what am I really going to do with all those books about Mary and the Popes and Catholic prayers?

Well, probably write 15 more articles dealing with Roman Catholicism. So, the thought occurs to me as my computer clicks and hums, is since they try to push Roman Catholic materials on Christians who buy Logos, do they push Baptist materials on Roman Catholics when they buy Verbum?

Well, after an hour of clicking and humming, Logos is ready. So now I’m going to gleefully poke at it!

3 Reasons to Journal

Recently, I wrote about Journaling.a post that of course got zero likes. It sounds somehow odd. “Why should you journal? That sounds so… un-Baptist!”

Well, as I mentioned yesterday, I’ve been working on getting my blog posts from 2012 in Scrivener, my latest blogging tool (you could also use Evernote). It’s great to be able to see where you were spiritually back then, and compare it to now. Good way to see if you’ve gotten off course, or possibly even more on track! Hopefully, option 2.
So, let’s look at 3 reasons to Journal, and 3 ways to do it!

  • You can see how off track you were, or how off track you’re getting spiritually. I know, I just said that above!
  • It can help you make decisions. I wish I’d gone back through my pastoring journal years ago – I’d written things about my old church in there, concerns about certain things right from the start that unfortunately, it turns out I was completely right about. If I’d reviewed it earlier, I might have left there long before my decision to finally withdraw.
  • It can help you to see where you need to go spiritually! By comparing where you were spiritually, what the Bible says, and then where you are NOW spiritually, it can help you get back on track, or can show you the direction you need to proceed! If your journal says “I need to read my Bible more” and “Skipped Bible reading today AGAIN” – now hey, that’s a hint!

So, how are some ways to Journal?

  • Microsoft Journal. They’ve abandoned support for this program (hint for OneNote users – the only program Microsoft has shown long term support for is Microsoft Office – go to Evernote NOW before they get bored with OneNote in a couple of years and yank that one too! I mean… remember LiveWriter? Frontpage? Frontpage Express? Outlook Express?), but you can still download this and use it. ALWAYS KEEP BACKUPS OF PROGRAMS YOU DOWNLOAD!!!! Anyway, this one is kind of set up like OneNote, except it’s suited more for journaling.
  • E-Sword. Yup! This bear of a program still has one of the best Christian Journaling functions ever!
  • Evernote. Evernote doesn’t seem to have a journaling function, but here’s how to do it… create a notebook called Journal, or 2017. Then just create notes in it titled with the date! Tag it Journal, and WRITE!
  • Bonus round – Quickverse 2010! I used to do my journaling in Wordsearch, but the truly ugly interface made me, well, completely uninterested in journaling in it. Moving to Quickverse (an older program) actually works better for me – if I can remember to stop, slow down, and – actually journal! Create a user book (by date format), call it 2017, and then add a note every day, and write!
  • Super Bonus Round – The Pastor’s Study. This program even has a function to allow you to journal. I’ve actually taken the journaling from all my other failed attempts and stored them all into the Pastor’s Study, then every month since then I go and store the latest ones. The way it’s laid out, you can see all your journal entries. It’s password encoded, which is annoying to me, but there’s a way to bypass that and make it remember the password – I just need to stop procrastinating and DO IT!

To me, journaling is an essential function for fundamentalists! Get into the habit of it, and try to review periodically. You’ll see that all those promises you make yourself that you forget about prayer, fasting and Bible reading will finally get done!

What in the World??

I’m no stranger to long Bible reading plans. I recently did a 3 times a year reading plan (or 4 – I can’t remember. There was a TON of chapters a day I had to read!).

But Logos recently threw me for a loop. I’m currently on a once a year reading plan to work on all my clippings, passage lists and commentary. I’ll probably be doing this for a couple of years.

So, I was reading… and suddenly I hit Proverbs 3.

Through 20.

Yes, I had to read seventeen chapters of Proverbs!!!

And tomorrow, back down to 3 chapters of Old Testament a day.

What in the world????

Quickverse 2010 Update

The illustration by Eugene Peterson is a good example of why I hate sermon illustrations

I’m really stubborn about getting a computer program to work. Quickverse 2010 comes with an annotation ability, such as Bible Explorer used to have, and Wordsearch had (and apparently now has again).

Why I’m putting this much work into it , I really don’t know. Logos is my go-to Bible program. I just really remember having Quickverse back in the 90’s, and it was the industry standard Bible program. I’ve had the Platinum package since 2016 (I think) and… while it’s great, I can’t copy and paste without having to fiddle with it, and the annotation feature (as I’ve mentioned about 563 times) never worked.

I’ve tried everything at this point. Tried using Quickverse 2009 to make annotations, copy and paste over or import over my annotations. The annotations still don’t work, and didn’t in the 2009 edition either.

I can write in the user books, and those actually work BETTER than the Wordsearch user book functions.

The only way I think I can use is to openly edit the db3 annotation file, but here’s where it doesn’t work – you’d have to know the lookup. Each entry in the db3 database has an index key, called a lookup. I could enter it as john1.1, john1:1, Jn1.1, Jn1-1, etc. Without knowing how Findex intended for it to work, the annotations functions remain useless.

What it really is, honestly, is nostalgia. I think it’s just a comfortable feeling of poking around in a Bible program I knew well and could use (kind of silly that I actually had Logos back then, and never read the user manual, back when software came with printed user manuals).
Also, it’s got to be that I’ve got a HUGE library of books in Quickverse platinum, and I’m reluctant to just let that go. I’m just frustrated that the overall design was not bad, and could have been useful… but it’s not working.

So, frustrating as it is, I really need to stop wasting time trying to get the annotation function to work.

I only use Quickverse as it is for one or two things, and should just keep working with Logos.

If you find Quickverse 2010 Platinum, and you decide to make it your go-to, just know you’ll have to constantly edit your Bible quotes, and you’ll need to use your Bible user books to do commentary and study notes in.