Points so far:
- The tribulation has a number of functions: the pouring out of God’s wrath, the returning of God’s focus from the Gentile churches back to the Jews, the return of Christ as King, and the final defeat and punishment of Satan and the fallen angels
- God has never punished believers along with the wicked, but always taken the believers out of the picture before pouring out His wrath.
- the only exception was the Jews in Egypt during the ten plagues, and as a whole, the Jewish people were not saved until the last judgment, death of the firstborn, when the blood was applied to the doorposts.
- All the prophecies to Israel must still be fulfilled.
- Preterism is unBiblical
- “But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” Mark 13:32 (KJV) If the Rapture occurs at any time except for before the Tribulation, then we pretty much would know the day and hour.
- Dispensationalism shows that God dealt with the Jewish people for 2,000 years and right now is dealing with the Gentiles in the Christian age of Grce.
- Matthew 24 is speaking to a Jewish audience, which is proved by the use of the words “The temple”, “The elect”, and “Sabbath day”
- Gentiles do not keep the Sabbath. Jews do.
- “The gathering from the four corners of heaven” is the return of Christ.
- The last few verses of Matthew 24 ARE referring to the rapture. So, then if there is pictured a “Gathering from the four corners of heaven” in Matthew 24, it stands to reason the Bible is teaching they all were previously brought to heaven.
- The book of Revelation should be read literally until the Bible specifically tells you not to.
- Belief in the Pre-trib rapture is often a litmus test for how doctrinally correct you are. wavering in that doctrinal stand is a hint there may be other areas of doctrinal error creeping in.
- Departure from a correct understanding of a single Biblical doctrine usually is quickly followed by others, until one is an apostate.
- Amillennialism is a denial of the literal words of the Bible.
- the method of calculcatin the number of the Beast is called Gematria, but it should really be avoided as it can lead to divining and witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible.
- Margaret MacDonald’s infamous visions were post trib. so is it possible that the post-tribbers all got their doctrine from the visions of a Scottish girl in 1850?
- There are no quotes or mention of the Irvingites – who were all post trib – in John Darby’s writings
To further expand on the last point – and this is important to debunking the last of the post-trib and pre-wrath people – John Darby is credited with being one of the first advocates of dispensationalism. He spent some time developing dispensationalism, working out the doctrines through a few years of careful Bible study.
If he were getting all of this from the Irvingites, then… why did he need several years to develop it? Why not just release it all at once? And how is it possible he got his pre-trib beliefs from the studies of post-trib believers?
and last but not least, post tribbers consistently ignore these verses…
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Revelation 3:3 (KJV)
Again, if we don’t know the hour of the Rapture, and we know DO know the hour of the Lord’s return (7 years after the signing of the peace treaty in Israel), then that tells us the Rapture has to happen BEFORE the tribulation, as at any other time DURING the tribulation, we’d know when it would be!
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Revelation 3:10 (KJV)
I’m seeing this as talking about the Rapture, and I’m not the only one. Don’t post-trib believers read their Bible? What about pre-wrath adherents? Don’t they read theirs? It’s amazing to look at this verse which literally tells us the churches will be kept from the Tribulation, and see people say, “I don’t believe that.” The Bible SAYS it, what part of that didn’t you believe???
“But wait – we may know the day that the Lord returns, but we don’t know if it’s 5 pm or 6! We don’t know the hour!!!”
That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard. And if anyone thinks I’m picking on the post-tribbers, YES I’ve seen that objection. If the Lord wrote “I will return on Sept 5, 1984” – don’t you think that everyone on earth would have repented and turned to belief in Him on that day – just to be safe? Wel, no, I suppose not. But if we knew the DAY but not the very second marked on the clock, obviously that’s contrary to what the Bible is telling us.
We don’t know the day. Forget day-age theories, or day-year, or “Take the number of verses in Matthew 24 and multiply them by 3, then…”
Forget it. We don’t know the day or the hour. We CAN’T know the day or hour. If you see a video, no matter how convincing it is,that says it’s June of 2017, I can pretty much guarantee it’s not that month.
I met a man once who had sold his home and was travelling the US in a mobile home with his wife and small children, surviving on handouts to feed them, clothe them, and drive from place to place. He tried his very best to convince me that the Prime Minister of England was the Antichrist, and that the rapture was going to be 2013. These people sold their future, to go around preaching a post trib rapture that would happen a year ago.
It never happened.
Friends, it’s very simple, and let me move onto this topic, and let’s dispose of it once and for all. Ministries have been destroyed because someone found some fanciful calculation that got them excited, and they ran around telling everyone – usually in a completely honest desire to tell people to repent and be ready!
Here’s what predictions of the rapture will get you – depression. Rejection. Loneliness. Humiliation. And the knowledge that you just subjected the body of Christ to ridicule. And these often very well meaning people have to endure that humiliation for years!
I’m praying that all it amounts to is having that embarassing memory removed as we enter into the eternity.
Coming up, we’re answering the Pre-Wrath position. We’ve already made a VERY strong case for the pre trib rapture, and completely demolished post, mid and pre-wrath positions. But there’s so many adherents of this position, I’m going to have to put aside a few days to actively answer them. Why? Because they’re statistically not going to read the entire series until I answer them completely, and leave them in doubt. “Well, what’s this guy think is going to happen?”
And I may rearrange my schedule and spend all of February teaching on not just the Rapture, but the entire tribulation period! Stay tuned.