An exchange from last year


Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM

From: daniel <*******@hotmail.com>

To: philipdean@

Subject: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Hello,

I saw your blog, and while was encouraged to see many things you write exactly along biblical lines, you put down the 10 Commandments which were written by the finger of God himself.

Why?

Sincerely,

Daniel

From: Philip Dean

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 6:16 AM

To: daniel

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

The ten commandments are for the Jews – they were given to the Jews.

You are right that indeed they were written by the finger of God.

To be brief, 9 of the 10 commandments were all restated in the New Testament and are to be followed. Only one was not. The Sabbath was given to the Jews, and is the sign of the old covenant, which we no longer are under.

Philip Dean

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 1 Corinthians 9:16 (KJV)

https://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 at 3:47 AM

From: daniel <*******@hotmail.com>

To: “Philip Dean” <philipdean@>

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Thank you for responding, Philip,

When God made everything, he did it in 6 days, and rested the 7th. He has commanded us to do the same.

You are correct that Jesus was a Jew. He kept all the law.

Shouldn’t we be like Jesus?

Daniel

(I notice here he dodged the point of “The sabbath was given to the Jews”)

From: Philip Dean

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:15 AM

To: daniel

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Shouldn’t we be like Jesus? The first two questions are…. are you God?

Second, are you Jewish? The Sabbath was never incumbent on Gentiles, ever.

I repeat – all of the ten commandments were repeated in the New Testament except for the Sabbath. The Sabbath is no longer binding upon us.

I wonder if you really know what is enjoined in keeping the Sabbath? You may not carry a burden in or out of your house on the sabbath. You may not work on the Sabbath. You may not light a fire on the Sabbath, so you have to pre-set your electric lights that you want to have on for the sabbath. You’ll need boxes of kleenexes to use as toilet paper on the Sabbath, as creation and destruction are both considered work under the Law.

You’ll need to pre-make your meals, and leave them on low heat on a heated sheet on your stove (a blech). You cannot brew coffee, so it has to be pre-made.

You cannot write on the Sabbath.

You cannot drive your car on the sabbath, as automobiles use a combustion engine.

Are you SURE you want to keep the sabbath? Once you do, you place yourself under the law, and are responsible for keeping all of the 613.

10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. James 2:10 (KJV)

We are NO LONGER under the law. See Galatians, Colossians, Hebrews. If you are born again, then you have died to the law. You cannot be born again without dying to the law.

Are you SDA or Messianic?

Philip Dean

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 1 Corinthians 9:16 (KJV)

https://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 at 6:55 PM

(His response actually violates the Sabbath, by the way…sent after sundown)

From: daniel <*******@hotmail.com>

To: “Philip Dean” <philipdean@>

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Hello Philip,

Your long list of man-made rules about keeping the Sabbath is impressive.

However, that has nothing at all to do with God’s command to “Keep the Sabbath holy”.

Don’t you want to live like Jesus?

Daniel

From: Philip Dean

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:43 AM

To: daniel

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Good job not answering the questions! You approached this somewhat dishonestly, as if you wanted to be taught, have a question answered. I see now what you want is a debate. First, you have to answer the questions I have posed.

You have repeated the question “Live like Jesus.” My questions there were

A). Are you God? Jesus is God. To live like Jesus requires you to be God.

B). Are you Jewish? The Sabbath was given only to Jews.

1 And God spake all these words, saying, 2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

What people were brought out of the land of Egypt, the house of Bondage? Jews.

Are you Jewish?

As for man made rules, here you go… these are from the Bible!

19 And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day. Nehemiah 13:19 (KJV)

21 Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem; Jeremiah 17:21 (KJV)

22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers. Jeremiah 17:22 (KJV)

24 And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the LORD, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein; Jeremiah 17:24 (KJV)

27 But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched. Jeremiah 17:27 (KJV)

3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. Leviticus 23:3 (KJV)

4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. Leviticus 25:4 (KJV)

6 And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee, Leviticus 25:6 (KJV)

14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. Deuteronomy 5:14 (KJV)

31 And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt. Nehemiah 10:31 (KJV)

When you’re reading your Bible, SLOW DOWN and dwell on the words. Creation is work – you may not make or build on the Sabbath. Destruction is work – you may not break, cut, tear, etc on the Sabbath.

These are not man made rules – it’s in the Bible. Starting fires on the Sabbath is forbidden on the Sabbath. You’ve read this, correct?

Before we go any further, or answer the questions in this email, you need to answer the questions I had asked in the previous one, including whether you’re SDA or Messianic.

Philip Dean

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 1 Corinthians 9:16 (KJV)

https://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM

From: daniel <*******@hotmail.com>

To: “Philip Dean” <philipdean@>

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Hello Philip,

In my first comment to you, I wrote: “I saw your blog, and while was encouraged to see many things you write exactly along biblical lines, you put down the 10 Commandments which were written by the finger of God himself. Why? ”

Is it because the words “Don’t you want to live like Jesus?” are pricking your conscience?

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. Luke 4:16.

Let’s live like Jesus, and follow all the words of God.

Daniel

(classic – ignore the questions, and repeat yourself. Oh. and don’t forget the accusation that he’s getting to me! When I read this, I actually said, “REALLY????” out loud)

From: Philip Dean

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:58 AM

To: daniel

Subject: Re: the narrow way includes keeping the 10 commandments

Sir,

No, the words “don’t you want to live like Jesus” are not pricking my conscience. Not Hardly. I am Jewish. I spent my time keeping the Law. I spent more than my time trying to be a good, observant Jew. I was Shomer Shabbos, I prayed my Tehillas Hashem, I was living like a good Frummishe Yid.

All I notice is that you are refusing to answer the questions. You’re being VERY evasive about answering them.

Philip Dean

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 1 Corinthians 9:16 (KJV)

https://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/

Hello Philip,

Before the real Jesus comes in the clouds, the counterfeit Jesus will come and show himself to be God.

He will try to force everyone to worship on his holy day – Sunday.

Will you follow him, or will you follow the real Jesus and keep his holy day – the 7th day Sabbath?

I will pray you make the right decision, so that we can live together forever with Jesus in glory!

Daniel

Sir, I have repeatedly asked you to answer the questions. You have been remarkably evasive about it. Until you do answer the questions I have asked, we can go no further. I do presume from your comments that you are SDA. You should probably read my series on that before we go any further.

Philip Dean

16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! 1 Corinthians 9:16 (KJV)

https://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/

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Author: philipdean2013

Seminary graduate with a Ba. in Theology/Pastoral Studies, Happily married, Independent Baptist. I can't keep silent about what I see going on in Christianity any longer! Apostasy reigns around us, churches are sliding into worldiness, a whitewashed Gospel is preached everywhere... "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16 (KJV) So, I'm speaking out. ...Why aren't you???

2 thoughts on “An exchange from last year”

  1. “Before the real Jesus comes in the clouds, the counterfeit Jesus will come and show himself to be God.”

    With the plans to rebuild the temple doesn’t it seem more likely that Antichrist will be the long awaited Messiah and that Jews and Christians will all be in peace as they worship on Saturday sabbath? Then they will say, See? Jesus was not the Messiah that brought peace like we now have! (For 3.5 years anyway…..)
    – Amy

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  2. “He will try to force everyone to worship on his holy day – Sunday.”

    OOPS, I meant to include this quote of his in reply.

    How is the deciding factor in the days of the antichrist as to whether or not we belong to I AM whether or not we worship on a Saturday whenever the Bible says not to judge us in respect to sabbath days. Makes no sense

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