Answering Roman Catholicism #27 – Mary


Roman Catholicism puts FAR more emphasis upon a Jewish woman than they do upon God.

Before all the RCc apologists start arguing, here’s the question… how many rosary beads are dedicated to Mary? How many to God?

That’s a much bigger emphasis on Mary than on God.

Now, everything you say about Mary is always hotly contested by Roman Catholics. The logic is very subtle, and sometimes you have to force Roman Catholics to stop and look at the facts.

For those who remember one of the exchanges I had with a Roman Catholic apologist, he was completely unaware that one Pope had written his own translation of the Bible, which was so heretical that the Vatican quickly impounded all the copies of it they could find after his death. I told a Catholic that, and he was unwilling to hear it. He continued to insist I must be referring to Jerome’s Vulgate. No, I was talking about Sixtus and his translation.

so, this is another area that I’ll have to take my time with.

For starters, Mary, Mother of God.

Mary is indeed the mother of the human part of Jesus Christ. But she is not the mother of the God portion of Jesus Christ.

By saying “Marry, Mother of God” you are indeed making her to be the mother of the God portion of Jesus Christ.

Now, the wording there really can’t be said in any language of earth. There is no “human portion of Christ and God portion of Christ” – Jesus Christ is fully human and fully God, indivisible. This is called the Hypostatic Union (yes, you do remember the test questions, after Seminary is over!).

But to make Mary Mother of the pre-existent Son of God is to elevate Mary over God – which is exactly what Roman Catholics do.

Now, yes, I know – there is very little Roman Catholic teaching saying explicitly, “Mary is greater than Christ, and greater than God.” However, in practice, they teach and practice just that.

How many chapels, shrines and churches are named after Jesus Christ? How many are named after Mary? David Cloud reports he could only find one or two named for Christ, and countless thousands named for Mary.

If you elect Mary to being Queen of Heaven, and Mother of God, you are placing her over God. You’re also making a statement (by that wording) as to the eternal nature of Mary, a claim that the Roman church apparantly has never considered that it is making! Rome does not have this tradition… yet. However, Rome places Tradition equal with Scripture, which is a blasphemy. Since tradition carries equal weight to the Bible, then once Rome understands what it has been claiming since 431 AD… it will eventually move to that pronouncement as well.

There has resulted from this unscriptural theory of Tradition, no grosser perversion of the truth than the entire system of Saintworship, and especially the cultus of the Blessed Virgin Mary. … She can only be fitly described as the tutelary Deity of modern Rome.” (Dean John Burgon, quoted from Roman Catholicisim: Past & Present by David Cloud, copyright 2006, way of life publishing)

Prior to 431 AD, the Roman Catholics shared the same understanding of Mary that Christians have… she was only a highly favored woman, chosen to bear the Messiah, the Son of God. After the Council of Ephesus, the RCc made this an official doctrine. I do not know if this was enthusiastically accepted among Roman Catholics… or if it was met with disbelief and opposition. I have no way of knowing, as no writings of everyday Roman Catholics survive from 431 AD.

Rome‟s Mary is not the Mary of the Bible but is a heathen goddess with a slight biblical veneer. The Bible‟s Mary is not the Queen of heaven or the Queen of peace or any such thing. But many ancient pagan religions featured a goddess with a baby. Isis, for example, was often depicted with the baby god Horus. There are still Hindu goddesses in India that are depicted with babies. (Roman Catholicism: Past & Present by David Cloud, copyright 2006, way of life publishing)

Prayers to Mary and the saints were not authorized until 600 AD, when the RCc made that another one of their doctrines. I’m only going to deal briefly with this for now, and deal with it in more detail later. Just understand this… The Roman Catholic church has a tradition of saying one thing, and in practice doing something else. And the laity understand it this way, completely ignoring what the church says, but understanding what they really mean.

As a faithful Catholic, and later as a nun, I was devoted to Mary. The prayers and practices were so familiar. They were taught to me by sincere people. I prayed the rosary, including rosary novenas. I wore a Brown Scapular and a Miraculous Medal. I visited shrines that honor Mary. I had beautiful statues of Mary. I attended special services where we prayed to Mary and recited a litany of titles honoring her. I read books about apparitions of Mary, and dreamed of visiting Lourdes and Fatima. I participated in processions honoring Mary. A statue of Mary was put on a platform that was decorated with flowers. There were poles on the platform, so that men could carry it on their shoulders. The men walked through the streets, carrying the statue on the platform. We walked behind the statue, singing songs in Mary’s honor. Was this worship? At the time, that question never occurred to me. Now, looking back on what I did, I believe that it was. (Catholic Concerns: Where does the road to Rome lead? Mary Ann Collins, Copyright

Rome claims that prayers are offered to Mary, who brings them to God. Apparently, God is too holy for the common man to pray to(?!?). So, despite over 100 Psalms praying to God and dozens of examples in the Bible of common men doing exactly that, the RCc claims we should pray to God through Mary and the Saints, who will make intercession on our behalf.
We should examine the Bible, and see what it says on this subject.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Isaiah 53:11-12 (KJV)

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. Hebrews 7:22-25 (KJV)

26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. Romans 8:26-27 (KJV)

According to the Bible, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit both make intercession for us, even without our prayer. And we can approach the throne of God directly…

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21 And having an high priest over the house of God; 22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. Hebrews 10:19-22 (KJV)

So, there is no reason to pray to Mary, since the Bible assures us that we have access to the throne already.
So, what is the RCc really teaching? That Mary is worthy of praise, worship and prayer.
A former nun came to that conclusion. Richard Bennet, ex-priest came to the same conclusion. The book by ex-Father Chiniquay came to the same conclusion. And the common Roman Catholic does as well.
Yet this concept cannot be found in the Bible. Indeed, there is not a single mention of Mary at all in the Bible after Acts. There is a Mary mentioned in Romans, but seeing as how there are many Marys in the Bible, there is no justification for claiming Romans 16:6 is referring to Mary the wife of Joseph.
What about this prayer?
“Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.”
This prayer identifies Mary as 1). Queen of heaven, a concept which can only be found condemned in the Bible, 2). Mother of Mercy – it is clear that Mary’s intercession in Roman thought goes beyond simply asking her Son to answer these requests, but actually as co-redemptrix. Rome cannot deny the co-redemptrix identification of Mary, as this is something that clearly is taught…. 3). eyes of mercy… so judgment is given to Mary as well?
Rome can’t deny this either, as there is a chapel where Mary is depicted as casting Martin Luther out of heaven while a grinning cherub tears pages from a book (which book, I wonder??? The Bible???). It’s a grossly inaccurate depiction, as I sincerely doubt Martin Luther is even in heaven, since he showed no fruit of salvation whatsoever in his walk or testimony. However.
So, here we have a problem. How does a simple Jewish woman accomplish these things that Roman Catholics pray many times a day to her? As a human woman, she simply cannot hear the prayers. Nor can she answer them. I cannot answer your prayers, so don’t pray to me. In the same manner, she is just a human woman, who even admitted in the Magnificat that she needed salvation in the same way we do!
46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 1:46-47 (KJV)
 Mary was not sinless, despite what Rome teaches. THe Roman Catholic church teaches her sinless nature… yet the Bible claims she needed salvation (see vs. 47 “God my saviour”.) If she needed salvation, she was a fallen sinner, just as we all are.

A lay movement called Vox Populi (“Voice of the People”) gathers signed petitions to send to the Pope, seeking to have him officially declare that Mary is Co-Redemptrix. As of the year 2000, over six million signatures had been sent to him, representing 138 countries and all seven continents. This doctrine is supported by over 40 cardinals and 600 bishops worldwide. (Catholic Concerns: Where does the road to Rome lead? Mary Ann Collins, Copyright

Mary cannot be co-redemptrix, as she is a sinner saved by grace, the same as the rest of us. The Co-redemptrix title can be found nowhere in Scripture, and the concept is not Biblical at all!
This is where the RCc crosses into blasphemy once again, as it disparages the cross of Christ. Ever cult at some point disparages the Cross of Christ in some way. The RCc does it in multiple ways… they advocate salvation by works, which is blatantly un-Biblical… indeed, anti-Biblical. And to claim that Jesus’s work on the Cross was not enough that we have to earn our salvation is an affront to Christ.
Now, we even need to have Mary help her poor son! His death on the Cross was not sufficient for the RCc, but requires also Mary’s help! I am infuriated at the very suggestion by the title “co-redemptrix”. I am infuriated that Mary is depicted in ways we should only be considering of Jesus Christ!!!
Tomorrow, we’ll examine this further.

Author: philipdean2013

Seminary graduate with a Ba. in Theology/Pastoral Studies, Happily married, Independent Baptist. I can't keep silent about what I see going on in Christianity any longer! Apostasy reigns around us, churches are sliding into worldiness, a whitewashed Gospel is preached everywhere... "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16 (KJV) So, I'm speaking out. ...Why aren't you???

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