Reasons why the Rapture is pre-trib

This is a popular subject as of late – and the reason why is simple. I think Christians sense that the time may be drawing nigh. There’s a million blogs which fall into about 4 different interpretations. The ONLY position which makes a distinction between Israel and the churches, is dispensational, and is literalist (takes the Bible literally) is…


To place “The Church” in the middle of the Tribulation, indeed, anywhere after Revelation 4, has to confuse or replace Israel with “the Church”. I always say it this way because the number of references in the Bible to the word “Church” identifies the word church to a local, visible entity. There is only one verse which can be interpreted either way. Since the Bible is careful to identify the church as a local institution, and uses the title “kingdom of God” or “kingdom of heaven” to refer to all believers as a group… I do the same.

“The church” is not Israel. Israel is Israel. The church is a local institution of assembled, born again believers that may be Jewish (usually the minority) or Gentile (usually the overwhelming majority). Gentile Christians are grafted INTO believing Israel, but do not REPLACE believing Israel. I could write a very long and very confusing series of articles on this issue – confusing because I’d have to use English, which is pretty slippery, to write it. Now if I wrote it in Koine Greek, it would be a lot more specific, but then only a handful of people could read it. And my Koine is pretty rusty, as my classes in it were 5 years ago.

How can I write these things?

1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. Revelation 7:1-3 (KJV)

This happens really early on in the Tribulation. Who is the servants of God? Some people say this is “The Church” because it refers to the servants of our God.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. 6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. 7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. 8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. Revelation 7:4-12 (KJV)

These are… Jews. The first reference to believers after Revelation 4 is a description of Jews. What tribe are you from?  That’s the question I ask any Gentile who tries to appropriate this for themselves. It’s stumped a few Jehovah’s Witnesses, by the way.

Let’s look at the Immanency issue. The Rapture is imminent. To say it comes at (X) point in the Tribulation means we can… pretty much guesstimate it’s time. “No man knows the day or hour” is what the Bible says. So if you say it’s midpoint – Voila, it’s 3.5 Jewish years after the signing of the peace treaty, Ta-Da! I know the day and hour. That rules it out from being the time of the Rapture.

If it was the third seal, then it’s roughly three months times 3 after the peace treaty – nine months later. Sixth Trumpet? It would be  roughly 39 months after the peace treaty.

How about the two doors? A door opens in heaven in Revelation 4:1, and does not re-open until Christ returns to earth. Open door number 1 – the Rapture. Open Door number 2 – the return.

The word “Church” is  used many times in Revelation 1-3. It disappears in Revelation 4 and is not seen again until after the Lord has returned to the Earth.

John is a type of the Christian in Revelation. HE gets Raptured in Revelation 4:1, and accompanies the Lord on His way back to the Earth.  If John gets raptured at that time, why are we any different?

We are told to look for the Rapture and the Return of Christ. We are never told to look for the Antichrist.

Finally (this is a quick article, I’ve written much longer articles on the Rapture previously, loaded with information) there is no resurrection of the dead mentioned in any point of Revelation until the Judgment. So either it’s post-trib (which explains nothing) or it’s pre-trib.

I’ve written MUCH longer articles on this subject in the past! Just click on the Rapture category, and keep scrolling down and sooner or later, you’ll reach the first one. By the time you’ve read every article on it… you’ll be convinced, or really sleepy, because it’s going to take a LONG time to get through all those articles.


What Ecumenism is

Recently I did an article on  “Why are we still listening to Rick Warren?” I made mention of his desire to create a one world church.

Yesterday I described how the Antichrist will ride the one-world church into power – it will be a forum he will be able to take advantage of to help consolidate power – before he eventually destroys that apostate church.

I’m not really seeing how we can separate a desire to create a one-world church and the one the Antichrist uses. From where I’m sitting, you have a very wealthy and influential pastor bent on creating the one-world church that will put the Antichrist in power.

“I see absolutely zero reason in separating my fellowship from anybody” – Rick Warren

3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed? Amos 3:3 (KJV)

Rick Warren sees no harm in joining with everybody. Look, even the most evangelical and ecumenical Christian out there, completely blind to discernment and seeing the world through candy twizzler glasses, can tell you that not everybody is right.

Zero reason for separating my fellowship? How about the Bible? Isn’t that our rule of faith and practice?

But the problem remains is that Warren is a Bible agnostic.

The Bible is God’s word to all men. It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is inspired by God, it is truth without any mixture of error. — Saddleback Church Statement of Faith

um… the Bible was written DOWN by human WRITERS… but the Bible did not have human authors, but God as the Author.

Rick Warren cannot point to any Bible as God’s perfect, inerrant, preserved, inspired word of God. He quotes from the Message as well as the Living Bible as Roman Catholic translations. But if you attempt to pin him down on the Bible, he really can’t tell you which one is God’s word. Indeed, Warren’s approach to the Bible is to decide the meaning of a text, and search for a scripture in various translations that support his interpretation of it.

This is the man guiding you back to Rome. He triumphantly celebrates the choosing of new popes, conveniently forgetting that the Roman Catholic church used to burn or drown Baptists.

“I am talking about the fact that about a hundred years ago, Christianity split into two wings…”Rick Warren

Still trying to figure out what happened around 1815 or so that rick Warren is referencing. If he’s referring to the Reformation and Martin Luther… I have to worry a little.

“Most readers will be surprised to learn that the largest international network is…the Christian Church. The Church, in all its expressions—Catholic, Evangelical, Pentecostal, Protestant and many others—has 2.3 billion followers.” Rick Warren

Rick Warren wants to return you to Rome. He’s enthusiastic about doing it. He’s excited to do it.

Separate from him. Reject his teachings. Throw away his DVD’s, get rid of his books.

Read your Bible and ask yourself if you agree with everything that the Roman church teaches? Do you believe in Mary, Queen of Heaven? Do you believe the wafer becomes the literal flesh of Jesus Christ? Do you believe in salvation by works?

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV)

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:6-11 (KJV)

3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. 1 Timothy 6:3-5 (KJV)

The Coming Antichrist

My wife and I were talking about the Antichrist lately – so since we were talking about him, we assumed that probably other Christians would be as well.

1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. Revelation 6:1-2 (KJV)

This is the coming Antichrist. The white Horse, and him who sat on him. He’s a ruler, and conquers.

He at first will make his rule through peace.

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. Revelation 13:1-9 (KJV)

The Antichrist will rise to power through flattery, negotiations, deals, political intrigue. But he will be a symbol of lawlessness. He will speak many things against the Most High. He will oppose Christianity and Jesus Christ.

He will suddenly rise to great power right after the Rapture…

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 (KJV)

Make sure you’re reading the verses, and not just skipping over them! They say there is a very real danger he  will deceive even some Christians.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24 (KJV)

This is a very real danger, that even Christians will sit around and say how great he is, at first. Then when he’s killed by an injury to the head, and suddenly comes alive again in a mock resurrection three days after his death, the world will marvel after him, and even worship him as a god.

Once the Holy Spirit and the Christians are taken off the earth (The Holy Spirit is what hinders the Antichrist up till this moment – the moment the Christians are raptured, the hindering is stopped) the Antichrist will use that moment to seize power. At first by peace, flattery, negotiations…

Then by the second seal, that goes by the wayside, as he begins to strike down everyone that opposes him. I hate to say it, but three regions on the earth oppose him. There are two powerful countries on earth right now who are not mentioned whatsoever in Revelation – if you’re wondering why… this is what we call a clue. There’s no mention of the United States or the UK in Scripture. the third country may possibly be Egypt.

The antichrist will ruthlessly pass laws against everyone that disagrees with him. Here’s the danger – if you’re an atheist, and you’re opposed to the worship of anyone, you’re going to lose that right. The Antichrist will insist on your worship. Failure to do so results in beheading.

I reject any theory that claims the Antichrist is a member of any Middle Eastern religion – it’s clear he’s an atheist (or pretends to be one, but actually is finally revealed to be a Satanist when Satan actually indwells the Antichrist’s body midway through the Tribulation). Does a religious system back him? Oh, yes – Revelation 13 makes it clear a religious system backs him, and it’s centered on a city of seven hills. According to Roman Catholic teachings, the city on seven hills is Rome. I actually agree with them. They will support him at first, until he no longer needs them, then he will persecute and destroy them. It’s all in Revelation 13.

The Antichrist will be possessed by Satan when he “resurrects”, and will insist on everyone on earth taking his image or the number of his name. It is six hundred sixty six.

If you are not saved, or you say things like “I don’t worship the Bible, but I believe in it” or other modernist nonsense – take this thought to heart… you will not be raptured (the Rapture is only for Christians, saved persons, born again people who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible) and… you will be very soon finding out if so-and-so was the Antichrist, or just a dress rehearsal. I don’t know – he keeps acting like the Antichrist so I’ve stopped ruling him out.

Good news- Jesus Christ will slay the Antichrist at His return.

Bad news – if you’re not saved before the Rapture… you run a very real risk of having to choose between accepting the Antichrist’s mark or image, or being killed.

Do not take the mark or his image, no matter what. You cannot be saved if you do.

Get saved now before it’s too late.

Those Fundamentalist Pharisees by David Cloud

Updated September 24 2014 (first published August 2, 1996)(David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143,

Christians who have strong biblical convictions are often labeled “Pharisees.”

The following are a few examples of the probably hundreds of times people have written to called me a Pharisee.

“I wonder what makes Mr. Cloud so sure he’s right and everybody else is wrong? Look at the Pharisees, Mr. Cloud, and then look in the mirror!”

“You’re the best example I think I’ve ever seen of the Pharisee who sits at the front of the synagogue giving thanks for not being a sinner like everyone else.”

“I figured you were a Baptist organization. You are nothing more than modern day Pharisees! Judgmental ignorant people. Get a grip.”

To label a Bible-believing Christian who is passionate to honor Christ and to obey God’s Word a Pharisee is a slander, because the error of Phariseeism was not their zeal to obey the Scripture. They had no such zeal. They were zealous, rather, to create their own religious system and to exalt their own self-righteousness.

A biblical definition of Phariseeism is as follows:

1. Phariseeism is supplanting the Word of God with man-made tradition and thereby making the Word of God of none effect. “Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men” (Mat. 15:7-9).

2. Phariseeism is rejecting Jesus Christ. “Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils” (Mat. 12:22-24).

3. Phariseeism is perverting the Gospel of the free grace of Christ into a work’s salvation. “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves” (Mat. 23:15).

4. Phariseeism is self-righteousness. “And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess” (Lk. 18:9-12).

5. Phariseeism is the practice of religious hypocrisy. “In the mean time, when there were gathered together an innumerable multitude of people, insomuch that they trode one upon another, he began to say unto his disciples first of all, Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy” (Lk. 12:1).

The Pharisees were at the forefront of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and of the persecution of the early Christians.

It is a great error to label a Christ-loving, Bible-honoring, grace-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving Christian a Pharisee.

Jesus did not reject the Pharisees because they loved God’s Word and took it too seriously.

Jesus did not reject the Pharisees because they were careful to honor the details of God’s Word. Never did Jesus reprove them for such a thing.

Jesus did not reject the Pharisees because they judged by God’s Word. They didn’t judge by God’s Word; they judged by their own vain tradition. Jesus warned against hypocritical judgment, but He encouraged judgment based on truth.

Jesus did not reject the Pharisees because they marked and avoided false teachers. Jesus Himself warned about false teachers and instructed His people to beware of them (Matthew 7:15-23). Jesus commended the church at Ephesus because they had “tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars” and for hating the deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:2, 6). Imagine that! Jesus commended the church for hating the deeds of false teachers. Obviously, that type of thing is not Phariseeism.

Zeal for God’s Word is right and godly. The following testimony expresses the very essence of true spirituality and godliness:

“Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way” (Psalms 119:128).

Was the Psalmist speaking here as a Pharisee? Of course not. It is spiritual to esteem all of God’s precepts concerning all things to be right and to hate everything that is contrary to God’s precepts. Note the emphasis on ALL precepts and ALL things and EVERY false way. This is the very strictest sort of Biblicist mindset, and it is encouraged in the pages of God’s Word as the correct mindset and attitude of the man who loves God passionately.

Jesus reproved the Pharisees for turning the law of Moses into a way of salvation, which it was never intended to be, and for their hypocrisy and for their lack of love and grace and compassion. Consider the following reproof:

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone” (Matthew 23:23).

Jesus didn’t say, “You Pharisees make far too much of tithing and other such things in God’s law. You are much too zealous for God’s Word. Don’t you know that God never intended you to take everything so strictly. Why don’t you lighten up?”

No, Jesus said they did well to take God’s Word strictly by honoring even the details of tithing. What He hated was that they had missed the heart and soul of the law of God, which was judgment, mercy, and faith. Observe that “judgment” is commended by Jesus!

The law was not given as a means to obtain righteousness; rather, it revealed God’s extreme holiness and man’s fallenness and pointed to Christ as the believing sinner’s justification (Rom. 3:19-24; Gal. 3:10-13, 24-25). The Pharisees missed the heart of the law which is to love God with all one’s heart and to love one’s neighbor as oneself. The fact that they were complicit in the death of the Son of God is clear evidence that they did not love God.

Candidly, there are a lot of fundamental Baptist preachers that I have little respect for, but I don’t know of any full-blown fundamentalist Pharisees. In my experience, every fundamental Baptist preacher believes too much in grace and delights too much in God’s free righteousness to be a Pharisee. There has been a lot of hypocrisy, though, and there is an element of true legalism within some aspects of the fundamental Baptist movement. I have warned about this often. (See, for example, my free eBook THE HYLES EFFECT, which is available at

While I can’t speak for everyone, I can speak for myself. And I don’t preach works for salvation and I don’t preach works for sanctification. Everything is by God’s grace and His grace alone. Everything is Christ in me the hope of glory. The essence of the Christian life is not me doing something for God. It was described by Paul as follows: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me” (Gal. 2:20).

This might not come across in every single sermon, but it is clear in my thinking and in my personal life and in the overall perspective of my ministry.

As for hypocrisy, I don’t always live up to what I preach. Far from it, but I confess my sins to God (and to man when the situation necessitates) and don’t pretend to any self-righteousness. I know at every moment that the only righteousness I have that is acceptable to God is in Christ and in Christ alone. That is not the thinking of a Pharisee.

We see in Matthew 23:23 that Christ did not rebuke the Pharisees for paying attention to the less weighty things in the law. He rebuked them for focusing on the lesser matters to the neglect of the weightier ones.

The Bible-believing “fundamentalists” that I know do not neglect the weightier matters of the New Testament faith. They aim, rather, to follow Paul’s example and to give heed to “the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27). They preach Christ’s virgin birth, blood atonement, resurrection, and ascension. They preach justification by grace alone and the Trinity and the personality of the Holy Spirit and the other “weightier” matters of the faith. They also preach church discipline (1 Cor. 5) and the divine restrictions upon the woman’s ministry (1 Tim. 2:12; 1 Cor. 14:34) and other things that are less weighty.

When a Christian today preaches against pop music and Hollywood’s moral filth and calls for modest dress, he is called a Pharisee, but the Bible demands a very strict separation from the world, and this is not Phariseeism; it is New Testament Christianity.

Following are just some of the commandments on this issue, and they are indeed commandments and not suggestions.

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God” (Romans 12:2).

“Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God” (2 Corinthians 7:1).

“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world” (Galatians 6:14).

“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them” (Ephesians 5:11).

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world” (Titus 2:11-12).

“Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world” (James 1:27).

“Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God” (James 4:4).

“Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul” (1 Peter 2:11).

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever” (1 John 2:15-17).

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness” (1 John 5:19).

Separation from the world by a born again, blood-washed, saved-by-grace-alone believer is not Phariseeism. It is obedience to God and conformity to His character and will.

The Pharisees were at the forefront of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and of the persecution of the early Christians.

It is a great slander to label a Christ-loving, Bible-honoring, grace-gospel-preaching, self-debasing, peace-loving Christian a Pharisee.

The modern Pharisee would be more akin to the Roman Catholic priest with his sacramental gospel and his traditions exalted to the place of Scripture and his long history of persecuting the saints. The ecumenical crowd doesn’t call Catholic priests Pharisees, though. They don’t seem to be concerned about all of the souls who have been led astray by these contemporary Pharisees.

The only men they seem to be concerned about are those dreadful old “fundamentalists” with their strong Bible convictions and their refusal to smile at error.

Oh, those dreadful fundamentalist Pharisees!

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Because the Government needs a reminder

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I try to avoid politics on this blog. But every now and then… roughly every other hour lately – the United States Government says or does something – sometimes at the Federal Level, and sometimes at the state or local level – that is illegal.

When I was a boy, the President of the United States was accused of illegal wiretapping the Democratic Party Headquarters. He was forced to resign.

Illegal wiretapping. Yes, it’s a felony.

Passing laws that contravene the established laws of the United States is also considered a “felonious act”.

You cannot pass laws prohibiting the free exercise of religion. It’s in the Constitution.

You cannot force people of faith to act contrary to their beliefs. It’s a violation of the law. Passing that law is a criminal act.

You cannot pass a law, on the Federal, State or local level, that infringes upon the rights of freedom of speech.

You cannot pass laws that violate both at the same time. To do so is to completely show utter and total contempt for the Bill of Rights.

The US Constitution is being derided as “outdated”, and many liberals are screaming for its banishment. If the constitution is overthrown, then here’s all the rights you have that will disappear:

  • The right of protection against unreasonable search and seizures. Anyone from the Government  can go through your house, office or car without a warrant any old time they please.
  • The right of protection against the establishment of a state religion. The government would have the right to tell you that you are now a Satanist, and pass laws forcing you to sacrifice, and there’s nothing you could do about it.
  • The right of protection against slavery. Yes, you could be bought or sold as property.
  • The right of protection against censorship. You used to be able to say whatever you liked. That IS a constitutionally guaranteed right. The US Government made that illegal with the “Hate Speech Act” in 2009.
  • You’d lose the right to vote.
  • You’d lose the right to own weapons.
  • You’d lose the right to protest. All that protesting people are doing right now against the Constitution? The Constitution is what guarantees that right.

Every basic right and freedom you have stems from the US Constitution.

If you do nothing while the government slowly, systematically outlaws Christianity, then you will be powerless to stop it when they pass laws stripping YOUR freedoms.

That long drawn out chapter in Numbers – what’s it mean?

18 On the second day Nethaneel the son of Zuar, prince of Issachar, did offer: 19 He offered for his offering one silver charger, the weight whereof was an hundred and thirty shekels, one silver bowl of seventy shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary; both of them full of fine flour mingled with oil for a meat offering: 20 One spoon of gold of ten shekels, full of incense: 21 One young bullock, one ram, one lamb of the first year, for a burnt offering: 22 One kid of the goats for a sin offering: 23 And for a sacrifice of peace offerings, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs of the first year: this was the offering of Nethaneel the son of Zuar. Numbers 7:18-23 (KJV)

Ever wonder about this? Or did you read it and your eyes glaze over?

Everyone offers the same thing. The Bible lists all of them by name.

Nahshon, Nethaneel, Eliab, Elizur, Shelumiel, Eliasaph, Elishama, Gamaliel, Abidan, Ahiezer, Pagiel, Ahira. They all offer the same thing. The bowl, the spoon, the charger, the bullock, the ram, the kid, two oxen, five rams, five he goats, five lambs.

Why is this in the Bible?

Let’s just say you come forward and get saved. You pray every now and then. Make a tithe offering once or twice a year. Read your Bible every now and then.

It’s like the bare minimum of Christianity. You got saved, and obeyed a little bit. The salvation part was the bare minimum to be saved, because its not your own salvation, it’s Jesus Christ.

Suppose you get to heaven, and Jesus Christ at the believer’s judgment were to address each one of us. “You trusted in me. You allowed me to save you. You even prayed to me. You worshipped me by listening to a Godly song and letting it move your heart. You read my word. Well done, good and faithful servant!”

In the midst of all this praising, you break down and say, “but I only did it once!”

And the Lord looks at you with so much pride and says…

“And it meant so much to me!”

17 The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17 (KJV)

That’s what that chapter is about.

Rick Warren – why do people still follow him?

I’ve written about Rick Warren before.

He calls for unity in the “church”. If he means unity among churches, I agree. That would be wonderful.

But the Bible forbids me, a Bible believing Christian, from associating with someone who teaches error.

17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. Romans 16:17-18 (KJV)

If someone is teaching doctrine that is contrary to the Bible, such as Baptismal Regeneration, or Infant Baptism (which… is essentially Baptismal Regeneration)… I must mark and avoid them. That’s what the Bible teaches.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV)

If anyone teaches Salvation by works… I cannot associate with them. It is a false Gospel.

So, for the REST of the churches out there, Unity among them would be a wonderful thing. I agree.

But Warren includes people who teach salvation by baptism, and those who teach you must do works to be saved, and those who teach universalism, and those who do not believe you must be born again (but rather that anyone who just starts attending a church no matter what you believe) and those who think that God was once a man and that as God now is, they may become…

Warren includes everybody. Why?

The Bible says that all religions will be united together in Brotherhood. They will all be of one mind, one heart, one soul. Bound together in brotherhood under one man.

The Antichrist.

Warren’s trying desperately to build that one-world “Church”.

It’s elementary that when you’re a “Bridge builder”, those bridges go somewhere.

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. Revelation 17:1-9 (KJV)

That’s the one-world “Church” that Rick Warren is trying to build. It’s headquartered on a city of seven hills. Do a quick search, and tell me if you can spot what city on this earth is made of Seven Hills and has a religious system based in it? Whose priests wear scarlet and red? Who lift up a golden cup as part of their worship service?

There was a priest known as Father Richard Bennett who realized that one day, while he stood in that city, and it drove him after several sleepless nights to renounce that “church” and open his Bible, reading it for himself, and got saved. You can read his story here.

Why do we follow a man, buy his books, read his blogs and “tweets”, who so openly is trying to build the Antichrist’s false religion?

Why has the Southern Baptist Convention never rebuked him?

If you own any books by this man, you need to store them in your trash can.