Seventh Day Adventists answered – The Sabbath (continued)

so… according to the SD…A and Ellen G. White (and correct me if I’m wrong)… the Sabbath is forever. Right?

First question…. and someone please enlighten me! But the SDA originally taught that the Seventh Day Sabbath was from 6 pm to 6 pm. So… WHICH 6 pm? Locally? Jerusalem? Understand that time zones are an estimate. So, it would be 6 pm in Jerusalem. But one Longitudinal minute later, it would still be 6 pm… but the earth rotated one minute. In other words, in reality, in that very spot BEFORE, it is in actuality on a sundial… 5:59. And two longitudinal minutes later it would be 6:02. Right?

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 1:5 (KJV)

Biblically, the Sabbath was measured from sundown to sundown.

32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath. Leviticus 23:32 (KJV)

The day of atonement (Yom Kippur in Hebrew) is a Sabbath. And… it’s measured from sundown to sundown. Yet for many years, Ellen G. White taught it was to be kept from 6 pm to 6 pm. Then, suddenly she changed it to the correct way. Thus sayeth the Lord. When she was asked by very concerned SDA followers to reconcile the two very different “thus sayeth the Lord’s” she promised that it would be made clear in a soon coming vision. Apparently, still forthcoming. I hesitate to say it, but probably don’t wait around for the vision.

Okay, next question… You’re not allowed to buy or sell on the sabbath, carry things out of your house, carry a burden in or out, or light a fire, right?

Turn on any lights on the Sabbath? That often creates a spark, very small. It’s… a fire.

Start your car? That’s a fire. internal combustion, right?

So… what’s the penalty for breaking the Sabbath? In old Israel, it’s death, right?

What is it now???

Where in the Bible are Gentiles commanded to keep the Sabbath? It’s only for Israel, right? That’s the Jews. Not Gentiles.

Last question…. the rest of the law of Moses was put away, right? Nailed to the cross, right? So… what about the Sabbath?

All the other 9 of the 10 commandments are  repeated in the New Testament epistles, right? So… if the Sabbath is to be kept by Christians, why is it the only one not repeated?


An exercise in jumping… to conclusions

It seems there are some liberal theologians who dismiss the book of Daniel. They conclude it has no prophecy in it. That it was written after the fact to sound like prophecy.

Because it has no prophecy in it, they argue that it must have been written in the second century/

But then they argue it’s in error, because Rome didn’t invade Jerusalem for another century.

uh… then… even by your pre-determined conclusions (which I understand would bee a Priorii argument)… if they were right (which they’re not, Daniel was written much earlier)…

wouldn’t that be the very definition of prophecy??? Writing beforehand accurately about evens in the future???

Fire insurance

What’s the only way to make sure you’re going to heaven?

Answer: You can’t.

If you’re trusting your own power to do it, or the right formula, the right ten step method, the right “incantation” (boy, I thought my brain would fly right out of my ears when I read that on a website)… you’re doomed to failure.

Failure in salvation means Hell forever.

So how do you do it?

You don’t.

Give it up. That’s the answer. Give it up. The price was already paid for you long ago.


Jesus Christ paid it all.

Now, there’s some things you have to understand first – you are deserving of Hell. We all are.

When Adam sinned, we all were in him.

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12 (KJV)

But let’s see how pure our hearts are.

9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. Jeremiah 17:9-10 (KJV)

10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:10 (KJV)

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Galatians 3:22 (KJV)

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23 (KJV)

Trust the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and be saved. Call upon the LORD today for the firgiveness of sins.

Ye must be born again. If you are not born again, you have no hope. Belonging to the SDA will not help. Belonging to the Roman Catholic church will not help. Being a Jehovah’s Witness will not help. Obedience to the Mormon church will not help. Joining a Baptist Church will not help.

Only through repentance and praying to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and faith in the finished work of the cross and His resurrection will do it.

What do you do? nothing. What does He do? Everything.

Really Really Creepy

Apparently, back in the 1960’s, there was a book called “666”. this book was a novel written to depict what the tribulation would be like.

MY friend, who is reading it, was reading part of it to me where the Antichrist (!) orders that recreation centers be built in churches. Workout rooms, basketball courts, etc.

That churches must now accept all faiths and religions as authentic, and that there is more than one way to God.

That all churches must hire Christian rock bands to perform updated music at churches, and that the churches should purchase psychedelic lights to flash in time to that music.

Tv screens in the churches.

I promptly asked him, “was the Antichrist named Rick Warren, by any chance?”

I was joking – no, Rick Warren is not the antichrist – but it’s CREEPY that this book was describing what goes on today in most churches. True, only the megachurches have the workout rooms. But all the churches have the rest.

I recall going to a pastor’s convention where the church looked amazingly like a mini-shopping mall. Pastors wandered through the four auditoriums, looking around with envy and coveting. I was looking for the men’s room. Had to decide which of the three men’s rooms I’d use.

Friends, even the Temple in Jerusalem will not be that extravagant. I mean, if you’re preaching the Gospel, and REALLY doing God’s work, then, yeah, that’s something!

But the drummer in that church had a bigger pulpit area than most American pastors do.

I’m not decrying success… but I have to ask, with these megachurches…

What kind of discipling goes on there? Can the members of that church answer simple questions on, “quote me a single verse to prove salvation by faith” (that should be a no-brainer… Eph. 2:8-9), or “once saved always saved” (John 3:16), or even “show me a verse that proves the Trinity” (1 John 5:7).

If they can… good! You’re doing your job.

If you’re caring for the needy.

If you’re preaching the Gospel.

if you’re edifying the Saints.

If you’re concerned with pleasing, worshiping and honoring the God of the Bible. (an aside note, I seem to have some mental block that keeps me from spelling “worshiping’ correctly!!!)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)

27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. Acts 20:27 (KJV)

But if your megachurch is all about entertainment, skits, loud music, light shows, and occasionally is interrupted by some guy talking in the middle about the Bible for 15 to 20 minutes (I mean, what is THAT about, dude?)… then… doesn’t it scare you that that’s exactly what was predicted to be a description of the End Times churches in a novel about the Antichrist???

Roman Catholicism Answered: The Priesthood 1

Every now and then I put off writing an article because it’s like fishing in a barrel…. too easy. This is one of those.

The Roman Catholic doctrine of the Priesthood is a blatant misappropriation by unSaved Gentiles of something that is commanded only to the Jewish People.

The tale is often told of a gentile who approaches the Rabbi’s Shammai and Hillel, wanting to convert if they can simply teach all of Judaism’s wisdom while standing on one leg. Shammai promptly chases the man off, hitting him about the head and shoulders with the ancient equivalent of a yardstick.

The man goes to Rabbi Hillel and makes the same request. Hillel, amused, takes up the challenge. He tells the man to start standing on one man, and answers.

“What is offensive to you, don’t do to anyone else. The rest is commentary. Go study.”

This has nothing to do with the preisthood, but it’s a cool story nonetheless. If any pastors are reading this, it’s a sermon illustration you’ll use, copy it.

Anyway, there is no command whatsoever in the New Testament for the establishment of a rival priesthood to Judaism.

The priesthood in the Old Testament was done in a manner to make sure Israel understood God’s choosing of Moses and Aaron, based upon love. Moses and Aaron sought after God, and obeyed the most amazing commands to do the most amazing things. Sure, they stumbled, they fell, and they paid for it. But they stood up and did things that most of us would beg God to find someone else to do.

So God, to show His choice of Moses and Aaron, selected the priesthood to be of Moses’s relatives, the tribe of Levi. That’s pronounced Lay-Vee, by the way!

The descendants of Aaron would be selected to be THE High Priests.

There is no provision for just any Jew to be the High Priest.  I cannot be a High Priest. I cannot even be A priest, since I am not of the tribe of Levi, but rather, Judah.

There is no provision for a Gentile to become a priest. OR a High Priest.

The New Testament, before the Apologists start screaming, uses several words interchangeably.

17 And from Miletus he sent to Ephesus, and called the elders of the church. 18 And when they were come to him, he said unto them, Ye know, from the first day that I came into Asia, after what manner I have been with you at all seasons, 19 Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews: 20 And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publickly, and from house to house, 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. 22 And now, behold, I go bound in the spirit unto Jerusalem, not knowing the things that shall befall me there: 23 Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me. 24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more. 26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. 28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Acts 20:17-28 (KJV)

Elders in Acts 20 are also called overseers. Another word for Pastor.

5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: 6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. 7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; Titus 1:5-7 (KJV)

Elders called Bishops.

1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 1 Peter 5:1-5 (KJV)

The words Bishop, Elder, Pastor, Overseer are all synonymous for the same office. THey have requirements that are all detailed in the Bible.


1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:1-7 (KJV)

This doesn’t sound like the  model of the Roman Catholic church. Are there Bishops in the Roman Catholic church who have wives and children?

If you said no, look again. They’re not SUPPOSED to. But there are historically a great many Bishops who had wives and children throughout history, including one Pope who fathered his own successor while a Pope!

6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Revelation 2:6 (KJV)

Nicolaitan. That’s a combination of Nike, meaning victory, and Laity, the congregation. Nicolaitanism is the ruling over the congregation, the establishing of two classes, clergy and laity. Trust me, there’s very little reverence in Baptist churches for the Pastor. It’s been said, resist the Devil and he will flee from you, resist a Deacon and he’ll fly at you.

Roman Catholicism Answered: Penance

Another short one today.

The issue of penance is addressed today.

From Got questions:

“Penance is one of the sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church. It is used as a form of discipline or punishment imposed on a person to demonstrate repentance for his or her sins. The Catholics refer to this as “doing penance.” The penitent first confesses his sin(s) to a priest. The penitent is then given instructions on what to do in order to atone for his sins. Usually, penance takes the form of praying certain prayers a specified number of times, fasting, or spending time in front of an altar. This is unbiblical. Nowhere does Scripture teach that performing works or punishing oneself will make restitution for sin.”

From CARM:
According to The New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism, Vol. 1, 1969, p. 141, “Penance is a sacrament by which sins committed after baptism are forgiven.” It goes on to state in question 171 that in order to receive the sacrament of penance worthily the Roman Catholic must, first, examine his conscience; second, be sorry for his sins; third, make up his mind not to sin again; fourth, confess his sins to the priest; and fifth, be willing to do the penance the priest gives them to do.  Thus, we see that this so-called sacrament is a works based means of gaining forgiveness of sins from God.  This is in contradiction to scripture.  A right relationship with God is achieved through faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and not by our works, or combination of our works and God’s grace, because our works are nothing more than filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6).
The Roman Catholic church believes that since the church is injured, Catholics must do works to be reconciled with that church. In case some Roman Catholic apologist is upset I’ve summed it up that way, I’m getting it straight from the Catechism of the Roman Catholic Church website.
The issue here is…
  1. God is the wounded party when you sin. Not “The church”.
  2. We must repent and be reconciled to God, not to men.
  3. Men, as sinners, do not have the authority to forgive sins,
  4. If I offend God, I cannot go to you and say, “I’ve sinned against God… what works do you prescribe I should do to make it up to God?” The answer belongs to God, and God simply commands us to repent of sins.
  5. Certainly God does not want us to repeat prayers over and over again. This is forbidden in the Bible. Idolatry is forbidden as well, so repeating the same prayer over and over again while holding Buddhist prayer beads certainly is forbidden.

Where does the Bible say we are to repent for sins?

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Revelation 3:19 (KJV)

The Roman Catholic church teaches salvation by works, and not grace, no matter how the apologists try to spin it. Penance is one of those works. Do penance, and you’ll gain graces.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Romans 11:6 (KJV)

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8-9 (KJV)

Pastor’s Emails

A week ago, I unsubscribed from the Tom Ranier emails.

Today was really the first Monday i didn’t have one of the emails.

I came to the decision because there was a constant push to “Change” your congregations.


There was the one with “Seven ways to sneak change into your church.”

uh… why?

“Six kinds of churches that resist change (and how to deal with them)”.

If the Bible hasn’t changed, why should I get my church to change?

What KIND of change?

What exactly are we talking about, here?

an email, asking those kind of questions got no response.

The final straw was when I got an offer to participate in a seminar – which I’d have to pay for – to learn how to subtly sneak change into my church.


Is this anything we should be doing with any kind of Christian integrity? I mean, if I’m going to pastor a church, if God so called me to, then I would explain my position of Fundamentalism, give them a whole series of sermon teachings on why, and then let them know this was conditional on my accepting the Pulpit. No Fundamentalism, get someone else.

That’s the way you do it. Go in there, explain your position so that your hearers can describe it back to you, then put it to them that they either agree to go along, or find someone else.

Don’t take the job of Pastor at a Baptist church, then find some way to sneak in Oneness Pentecostalism, or Calvinism, or try to change the worship style by slowly sneaking in specials that feature a drum, and then start moving in contemporary pieces that are toned down, with the intent of getting people within five years into accepting a praise band with pyrotechnics, lasers, dry ice and colored lights.

Don’t write books about being driven by purpose, and then fail to mention the purpose that’s driving you is trying to get Baptists to become Roman Catholics.

These are bottom line arguments. I think that anything you should do in the Pulpit needs to be done in a manner that can be done in front of Jesus Christ. If you have to be underhanded and use trickery to accomplish your goal, is that something the Lord would do???


I doubt I’ll miss the emails.