Answering Judaism 8


Yesterday, I put up the first 30 of the 613 commandments according to the RaMBaM. Here’s the first reason why…

number one – there was at least two out of the 30 where the RaMBaM’s explanation of what it was about was somewhat different from what the Bible says. That’s averaging 6% of his commandments.

Number two – now that you’ve seen the first 30, here’s my second, and larger point – you have to, according to the oath we swore at Sinai, keep all of these every minute of every day. Positive Commandments must be kept, negative commandments must not be broken.

31. Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes Exo 20:23 Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.

32. Not to turn a city to idolatry Deuteronomy 13:12-14 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, (13) Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (14) Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

33. To burn a city that has turned to idol worship Deuteronomy 13:15-16 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. (16) And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

34. Not to rebuild it as a city Deuteronomy 13:15-16 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. (16) And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

35. Not to derive benefit from it Deuteronomy 13:15-17 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. (16) And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again. (17) And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;

36. Not to missionize an individual to idol worship Deuteronomy 13:6-10 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: (9) But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. (10) And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

37. Not to love the idolater Deuteronomy 13:6-8 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

38. Not to cease hating the idolater Deuteronomy 13:6-8 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

39. Not to save the idolater Deuteronomy 13:6-8 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

40. Not to say anything in the idolater’s defense Deuteronomy 13:6-8 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

41. Not to refrain from incriminating the idolater Deuteronomy 13:6-8 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; (8) Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

42. Not to prophesize in the name of idolatry Deuteronomy 13:13-16 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; (14) Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; (15) Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. (16) And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

43. Not to listen to a false prophet Deuteronomy 13:1-3 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, (2) And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; (3) Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

44. Not to prophesize falsely in the name of God Deuteronomy 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

45. Not to be afraid of killing the false prophet Deuteronomy 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

46. Not to swear in the name of an idol Exo 23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.

47. Not to perform ov (medium) Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

48. Not to perform yidoni (“magical seer”) Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

49. Not to pass your children through the fire to Molech Leviticus 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

50. Not to erect a pillar in a public place of worship Deuteronomy 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

51. Not to bow down before a smooth stone Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. Note: The verse says “…any image of stone”. A smooth stone may indeed be an image of stone, but it is not limited to this.

52. Not to plant a tree in the Temple courtyard Deuteronomy 16:21 Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.

53. To destroy idols and their accessories Deuteronomy 12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:

54. Not to derive benefit from idols and their accessories Deuteronomy 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

55. Not to derive benefit from ornaments of idols Deuteronomy 7:25 The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God.

56. Not to make a covenant with idolaters Deuteronomy 7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

57. Not to show favor to them Deuteronomy 7:2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

58. Not to let them dwell in the Land of Israel Exo 23:33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

59. Not to imitate them in customs and clothing Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

60. Not to be superstitious Leviticus 19:26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times. Note: I have no idea how the RaMBaM derived a commandment not to be superstitious from this verse. However, I believe this prohibition is indeed Biblical. At its core, superstition tends to be idolatrous.

Again, we’re looking at about 6% of verses listed saying something different than what the RaMBaM writes. He’s maintaining that average pretty closely.

Some of these today require living in the land of Israel. Do you live there? Obviously, the laws of idolaters cannot be enforced in any country that does not already have those laws in place. And I somehow doubt they apply in Israel at this time. No sweat! If you are going to try to say you can keep the 613 commandments, you’ll need to move to Israel and get those laws changed!

Oh, by the way…. did you focus more on yourself than on God while you read this? Then you’ve already broken one of the first commandments, to love the Lord our God with all your heart, soul and strength!

Oooh, not off to a good start! Well, no problems! Just hop onto a jet to Israel and offer a sin offering at the Temple and…

oh. Yeah, that’s a problem.

Oh, by the way… do you believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah? He’s the one who will speak in Moses’ place, the prophet and Messiah. Remember commandment #9 from yesterday? So, already you’ve broken two commandments, both days… and no way to atone for sin.

Starting to feel the crushing weight of the Law yet?

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Answering Judaism 7


there’s a story in the Gemara about the debate between a number of Rabbis over a self kashering oven. Rabbi Judah the Prince is arguing for it, other Rabbis against it.

Rabbi Judah appeals to God. “If I am right, let that stream be diverted.” the stream is diverted. The other Rabbis are not impressed.

Rabbi Judah appeals to God again. “If I’m right, let that rock move backwards fifteen feet.” The rock jumps backwards. The Rabbis aren’t impressed.

Their reasoning? “It’s not in heaven.” Meaning, The Torah was given to man… so it belongs to man to do with whatever he pleases.

uh… yeah. If that’s your defense on judgment day, good luck. et me know how that works out for you.

24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths. Ezekiel 44:24 (KJV)

Ezekiel records that God still considered them HIS laws, centuries after Sinai.

So, what are the Laws? Most Jews hear all about the 613 commandments, but few know what they are. Lets go through some of them.

what’s going to amaze you is that some of them say the exact opposite of what the Rabbis say they mean.

1. To know there is a God Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

2. Not to even think that there are other gods besides Him Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

3. To know that He is One Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

4. To love Him Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

5. To fear Him Deuteronomy 10:20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.

6. To sanctify His Name Leviticus 22:32 Neither shall ye profane my holy name; but I will be hallowed among the children of Israel: I am the LORD which hallow you,

7. Not to profane His Name Leviticus 22:32 Neither shall ye profane my holy name; but I will be hallowed among the children of Israel: I am the LORD which hallow you,

8. Not to destroy objects associated with His Name Deuteronomy 12:3-4 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. (4) Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.

9. To listen to the prophet speaking in His Name Deuteronomy 18:15-19 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; (16) According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. (17) And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. (18) I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. (19) And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

10. Not to test the prophet unduly Deuteronomy 6:16 Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.

notice they’re not in sequential order.

11. To emulate His ways Deuteronomy 28:9 The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.

12. To cleave to those who know Him Deuteronomy 10:20 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name.

13. To love other Jews Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD. Note: The text says to love your neighbor as yourself – not necessarily confining it just to loving Jews.

14. To love converts Deuteronomy 10:19 Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

15. Not to hate fellow Jews Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. See note commandment #13

16. To reprove a sinner Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

17. Not to embarrass others Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18. Not to oppress the weak Exo 22:21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

19. Not to speak derogatorily of others Leviticus 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the LORD.

20. Not to take revenge Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

not too much problems. I think a couple of these will have given some pause. “is that what it says? Huh… okay, yeah, I guess.”

Read number eleven again. Is that saying what the Bible passage says? That one’s kind of iffy. Be advised, several of these I had to search for the verses, because the RaMBaM’s list did not have all of the right verses. In a couple of cases, he would list Exodus as being the book, but the real verse was in Leviticus. Or he’d say Chapter 17, but it was chapter 6. I spent a couple of days going through his list.

20. Not to take revenge Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

21. Not to bear a grudge Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

22. To learn Torah Deuteronomy 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

23. To honor those who teach and know Torah Leviticus 19:32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD.

24. Not to inquire into idolatry Leviticus 19:4 Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.

25. Not to follow the whims of your heart or what your eyes see Numbers 15:39 And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:

26. Not to blaspheme Exo 22:28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.

27. Not to worship idols in the manner they are worshiped Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

28. Not to worship idols in the four ways we worship God Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

29. Not to make an idol for yourself Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

30. Not to make an idol for others Leviticus 19:4 Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.

About how many times now have you read the verse, and said… “uh… that’s not what it says at all!!!” Should be two or  three times by now, and… hey…. we’re only 30 commandments in! There’s 580 to go!

Don’t worry, we won’t go through all 613! I’ll have made my point fairly soon. For the most part, I’ve already made it…

more tomorrow.

Answering Judaism 6


Okay, let’s continue our examination of what we’ve been taught vs. what the Bible says. If you read your Bible – and most Jews don’t – you’ll find there’s a big difference between what you’ve been taught, and what the Bible says.

How do the Rabbis explain this? “There’s a written Torah, but there’s also an Oral Torah. And the Oral Torah is just as authoritative as the written one.”

Really. I’m going to tell you that your Rabbi is lying to you. When he says “just as authoritative”, he means “more authoritative.”

Which does the Yeshiva student study more, the written law, or the “oral law”?

Answer – the Oral law. By a huge margin.

According to the Oral Torah, the Oral Torah is more authoritative.

Well, that’s a self serving statement if ever I saw one.

First, let’s see if an oral Torah even exists.

14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven. Exodus 17:14 (KJV)

27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. Exodus 34:27 (KJV)

9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. Deuteronomy 6:9 (KJV)

20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates: Deuteronomy 11:20 (KJV)

18 And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites: Deuteronomy 17:18 (KJV)

19 Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel. Deuteronomy 31:19 (KJV)

1 And Moses with the elders of Israel commanded the people, saying, Keep all the commandments which I command you this day. 2 And it shall be on the day when ye shall pass over Jordan unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, that thou shalt set thee up great stones, and plaister them with plaister: 3 And thou shalt write upon them all the words of this law, when thou art passed over, that thou mayest go in unto the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, a land that floweth with milk and honey; as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee. Deuteronomy 27:1-3 (KJV)

um… no mention of an Oral Torah, only a written one. Indeed, Deut. 27:3 commands that all the words of the law be WRITTEN.

Ooops.

The King was commanded to write all the words of the Law on a scroll.

Oops.

Brothers, it’s like this. There is no Oral Torah. The Bible says (remember, this is the writings of GOD…) that all the words of the Bible are to be WRITTEN.

The Oral Torah (these of the words of men…) says the Oral Torah is more authoritative.

The argument is a simple one… who’s got more authority? Man or God? According to the Bible, God. According to the Oral Torah, man.

So I ask again, who judges who? Will Rabbi Akiva judge God, or God judge Rabbi Akiva? I’m telling you right now, God will judge Akiva. So God is more authoritative. God’s word is more authoritative than Akiva’s, or Hillel, or Rabbi Judah the Prince, or Onkeylos the Proselyte.

So, let’s look at some of this Oral Torah.

MISHNA I.: There are four New Year days, viz.: The first of Nissan is New Year for (the ascension of) Kings and for (the regular rotation of) festivals; 1 the first of Elul is New Year for the cattle-tithe, 2 but according to R. Eliezer and R. Simeon, it is on the first of Tishri. (Rosh Hashanah 2a)

Who’s Rabbi Eliezer? Who’s Rabbi Simeon? Did they live during the time of Moses?

Nope. They lived almost two thousand years after Moses.

Okay, I know sometimes I move too fast, and completely lose people, but this ought to be simple to understand.

How can this be the Oral Torah, if it’s written almost ttwo thousand years after Moses???

If the Oral Torah was given at Sinai as well as the written one, how could it possibly be using the opinions of Rabbis who would not live for centuries??? We’re not tlaking 400 years. Were not talking a thousand years. We’re talking almost twice that. They – and all the other Rabbi’s mentioned in the “Oral Torah” lived from 70 BC to about 250 AD. Indeed, most of them lived during the very time of Jesus, and most of the discussions that took place happened after the destruction of Jerusalem.

uh… that would mean that it’s newer than most of the New Testament. If older is more authoritative, then the New Testament is far more authoritative than the Gemara.

GEMARA: What is meant by “Or”? Said R. Huna: “The dawn of day,” and R. Jehudah said: “Night.” At the first glance it was presumed that the word “Or” was actually explained by R. Huna to mean “the break of day,” and by R. Jehudah to mean “night.”An objection was made, however, based upon the passage [Genesis xliv. 3]: “As soon as the morning was light (‘Or’) the men were sent away,” etc. Thus we see that “Or” means “day”? Does then the passage say in the light of the morning? it says distinctly “when the morning was light,” which means when the morning was already light, the men were sent away.Another objection was made: It is written [II Samuel xxiii. 4]: “And as in the light of morning the sun riseth,” whence we see that by light is meant “day.” Does it then read in the passage “Or Boker” (light is morning)? It reads “Uchor Boker,” which means “as the light of the morning,” and this should be understood thus: “As the light of the morning on this earth; so will the sun shine for the righteous in the world to come.” (Pesachim 4a)

 

Okay, now we have our second issue. The first one really should have totally blown your mind, because when I was trying to read my Daf Yomi one day (the daily tractate of the Talmud), that thought had occurred to me… “wait… how can this be the Oral Torah then?”

What’s our second issue?

Simple.

If it’s the Oral Torah, passed from God to Man at Sinai… why is there argument? We have three separate issues in Pesachim 4a (the tractate numbers may be wrong, as the edition I’m using is using a different numbering, such as starting the Talmud in page 1… the Talmud starts on page 2, not 1!).

Okay. I ask you, is there ANYWHERE in the BIBLE, where there is objections, and differing opinions given? Talmud study makes your brain really sharp, that’s for sure. But I’ll say the Christian fundamentalist King James Only position makes your brain just as sharp.

The Bible does not mention anything about future Rabbi’s, nor mentions them by name. The Bible does not contradict itself. How many times have I heard the Rabbi say, “….but there is a prob-LEM..” as we were reading through the Gemara? It’s how the pilpul stuff started! That rythym constantly given as we study the Gemara. “but there is a prob-LEM…”

The problem is… there is no oral Torah mentioned in the Written Torah, indeed, verses that prove it could not exist. The very substance of the Gemara proves its not the Oral Torah, and the disagreements and contradictions within it almost suggest a group of men sitting around making things up as they go along. “Well, the Temple is gone, and the priesthood out of work, so it’s up to us to figure this thing out.” So they built a foundation upon the work of Hillel and Shammai, Choni the circle maker, etc

Incidentally, the Gemara bears witnesss to something extra-ordinary. What’s one of the things a physician can carry on the Sabbath? Anybody know?

The nail of a crucified man. Why? it seems once there was a nail from a crucifixion that seemed to convey miraculous healing for a time.

Huh.

Huh.

Okay, moving right along…

If there is no Oral Torah, then… what are we to assume of all these books of the writings of the Rabbis? The Talmud, the Mishnah, the Zohar, the Responsa, RaMBaM, the Mishneh Torah, the Shulchan Aruch, Rashi?

Simple. It’s the writings of fallible men, trying to figure out the new way, with the loss of Jerusalem and the Temple.

Phariseeism was the most logical successor, as it relied only somewhat upon the Temple. Judaism had just lost the Temple, and many Jewish inhabitants of Jerusalem had been carried off into slavery. Many of the priests had been killed. The Saducees were almost wiped out in the battle, and those that were left were at a loss, without the Temple. Since Phariseeism was best positioned to take over, it did so. All of Judaism you see today is the descendant of the Pharisees.

And somehow, we bought it when these men claimed their words were even more authoritative upon Jews than the words of God.

We were deceived. We were lied to. And very shortly, we’re going to wake up.

When? When all those Christians and the apostate Jews who went geshmat, who believed in Jesus, just…disappear.

And 144,000 Jews are going to arise all of a sudden, who believe in Jesus. And they’re going to be almost unstoppable. And you’re going to see two men at the Beis Miqdash, who are going to claim they are Moshe Rabbeinu, and Eliyahu Ha-Navi.

Moses and Elijah. And you know what? They’re not just claiming it. They ARE Moses and Elijah! And they’re not going to be happy at all with Rabbinic Judaism.

What kind of problems is that going to create when you see Moses himself denouncing the Oral Torah???

think about it. It’ll be sometime in your lifetime. I don’t know when it’ll happen, but barring accident, foul play or disease, I’ll see the Rapture in my lifetime.

I’m trying very hard to bring you with me.

Answering Judaism 5


Again, I’d like to point out that when I write these for other religions, I’m usually having to point out all the doctrinal errors. Judaism is unique in that it has a great deal of truth to it, but…

1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. Romans 10:1-2 (KJV)

I remember my time as a Chassid, there was always this worry that I wasn’t doing enough. Most people that come to a Beis Chabad are not Chassids, but regular Jews. In major centers like New York or Detroit, LA, etc… you do end up with a larger Chassidic commuinity. But in smaller towns, you’ll have the Rabbi and his family, and usually that’s it. Well, I began to worry about the judgment of God. I was assured that all I had to do was “start with one mitzvah.” So I began doing daily hand washing in addition to the yarmulke, the tallis, the tefillin, the praying three times a day. I looked up the mitzvot in my book by the Chofetz Chayim, and checked it against the Gemara. Okay, there’s a problem.

The “just start with one mitzvah” approach was not mentioned in any of the Rabbinic writings. That kind of bothered me. So I opened my Artscroll Chumash, and tried looking up the mitzvah in my list that the RaMBam had written.

Yeah, that approach wasn’t there either.

It became very clear to me that al of the Taryag Mitzvos (613 commandments) were required, and all still in effect. And we had a major problem (aside from the fact that the RaMBaM had made some major errors in listing the 613, but we’ll get to that…)

There’s no Beis Miqdash. No Temple. No offerings.

A VERY large part of the 613 commandments require the Temple. And they require regular yearly visits to Jerusalem, to the Temple.

Now, my Jewish readers whom God has led here will quickly protest, “Wait! that’s not what we believe!”

Brothers, it’s like this… and check me on this, because it IS going to happen in our lifetime… the Beis Miqdash, the Temple, is going to be rebuilt. They’re working on it right now. It’s going to be finished, then it’s at some point in the next few years going to be moved to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. It’s gonna happen.

And suddenly your Rabbi is going to explain, “Well, see, it is incumbent that you’re going to have to go and offer sacrifices at the Temple. Those mitzvot couldn’t be done until now, but now that we have it again, they’re in full effect.”

Just watch and wait.

So, here’s my point… if the commandments will be in effect then, they’re in effect now! The Beis Miqdash was destroyed for a reason. And you know what? There was a Jew who, during the second Temple period, actually foretold exactly HOW the Beis Miqdash was going to be destroyed, and he promised it would happen in the lifetime of his hearers.

1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. Matthew 24:1-2 (KJV)

Now, a couple of days ago, we talked about the fact that Judaism requires the sacrifices to atone for sin, and that the sacrifices on Yom Kippur were no longer accepted after 30 AD. This means that Judaism has been without a way to atone for sin since 30 AD. Well, Judaism has been claiming sins are atoned for by prayer and charity, a concept for which cannot be found in the Torah. Before you bring up the Oral Torah, trust me, we’ll be dealing with that in a few days, pretty conclusively.

Well, with the Temple being rebuilt, guess what? You’re suddenly going to see Judaism reverse itself on that. “well, it used to be without the Temple prayer and charity atoned for sins. But now that we have it, that doesn’t apply anymore, and we have to offer the sacrifices.”

Wait and see. I guarantee it.

Now, here’s the problem, and I’m sure any of my Jewish readers will have spotted it right away. If prayer and charity atone for sin, it ALWAYS atoned for sin. God does not change.

But if prayer and charity do not atone for sins WITH the Temple, then… they never atoned for sin.

So, then, if there’s a Hell (and both Orthodox and Chassidic Judaism stipulate its existence)… what has saved us from it?

Answer… nothing. There was a transfer of efficacy back in AD 30. I described how the doors of the Beis Miqdash used to be tied shut with a red cloth, and once the High Priest was done with the Yom Kippur sacrifices, the cloth would turn white. This is in the Gemara, go look it up. And if you’re asking me for a reference… “don’t be so lazy.” is what my Rabbi used to grunt in his gravelly voice.

Well, if that was no longer efficacious, then obviously we transitioned to something new.

Here’s the way the Bible puts it… there’s ceremonial handwashings, right? N’tilat Yadayim…. the first mitzvah I added after the obvious tallis, gartl, etc. (yes, I added more very quickly before I ended up leaving)… That has to be done every day when you wake up. And before every meal. That passes away. It’s done once, then.. has to be repeated. Like the offerings and sacrifices. They would have to be done repeatedly, daily. There’s the shewbread. That passes away. The oil in the Menorahs. The furnishings of the Temple decay with age, they rust. They pass away. And twice we’ve lost our Temple.

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Jeremiah 31:31-34 (KJV)

READ this. It’s the Bible. It comes from God. It’s much more authoritative than the Oral Torah, or “Rabbi Zusya says…” listen, who’s going to judge who? Will Zusya judge God, or God judge Zusya?

The Bible says that there’s going to be a new covenant. In that new covenant, all sins will be forgiven. That’s what it says! Don’t take my word for it, READ it!

The old one was in effect until Moshiakh, until the Messiah. Once he came… he would put an end to the offerings once for all.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Daniel 9:24-26 (KJV)

The Messiah will be cut off…. killed, says verse 26. Verse 24 says that there will be and end of sins. When we compare the two verses, we see that there will be a forgiveness of sins… and its tied to the death of the Messiah. And That ushers in the new covenant, one where we do not have to keep the Torah any longer, as we are forgiven of sins.

how do I get that? Simple – the Torah was given as the first covenant, when Moses sprinkled the Israelites with blood, and announced, this is the covenant. Jeremiah tells us of a future covenant.

A covenant is a contract. You do this, I do that. It usually requires a sign. Wedding rings are a sign of a covenant. The old covenant the sign was the bris, the circumcision. The new covenant, the sign is… well, forgiveness of sins. The new covenant the sign is the cross, on which the Messiah died.

If you’re struggling through this series, it gets a lot more interesting after this point. Because I’m going to explain the new covenant, and start proving who the Messiah is.

Answering Judaism 4


We analyzed atonement for sins yesterday, and concluded that Rabbinic Judaism teaches something unBiblical, in that prayer and charity atone for sins. The Bible says it is blood that makes an atonement.

We then looked at it further, and saw that “Blood” and “Atonement” are in the singular, future tense in the Bible, meaning there still is coming a day when someone, a high priest, will make atonement for our sins.

an additional point is – a human high priest has a bit of a problem, in that his own sins need forgiving as well.

So, we need a high priest, who is sinless, and can make one atonement for sins, once for all.

14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Hebrews 4:14-16 (KJV)

This is a little difficult to understand, at first. Hebrews holds the truth, but it’s difficult for beginners to read and understand. But hopefully, I’ve laid a good foundation, and this is beginning to make sense!

1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins: 2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins. 4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron. 5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; Hebrews 5:1-9 (KJV)

If the High Priest can die, his ability to atone for our sins is compromised in that he cannot continue to make atonement for us. If he has his own sins, then he must first make atonement for his own sins.

Therefore, a human high priest cannot make atonement for sins once for all, but merely cover them. We need our sins removed once for all, the burden released, the sin debt paid in full.

Judaism does not have a way to pay for sins today, since the Temple, the Beis Miqdash, is no longer. and we saw yesterday from the Bible, it specifies that without blood, there is no remission.

That’s kind of an issue. The Rabbis are telling us one thing, the Bible another. As you’re going to see, that’s the rule, not the exception.

As I’ve mentioned previously, Jews are notorious for not knowing their Bible. We sit there in shul three times a week, and hear the Torah read, but if your Hebrew is bad, you have no idea what’s being said. It’s a shame that we’re the People of the Book, but most of us have no idea what’s in them.

Here’s what I want you to do… while you read this, start reading your Bible. I recommend the old JPS if you can find it – because some verses are translated in the new version to not say exactly what they say in Hebrew – specifically to avoid sounding like they’re talking about Jesus Christ. Seriously.

Now if the editors of the modern JPS think the Hebrew verses sound like they’re talking about Jesus Christ… odds are good they’re talking about Jesus Christ.

The truth is, the best English Bible is the King James. If you’re willing to read a Christian translation, this is really the only Bible I recommend. It’s got the same books of the Old Testament, just in a different order, and a few verse numbers are different (20 instead of 19…, etc.).

Am I saying there’s a conspiracy to keep the Jewish people away from Jesus? to a certain extent, yes. The belief is that if a Jew believes in Jesus, they’ve converted to a gentile religion. Technically, it doesn’t make you a Goy, but your grandchildren will be considered that if they don’t return to Judaism.

As I mentioned the last three days, it’s an illogical position. Because if I can demonstrate that Jesus Christ is the Messiah of the Jewish people, then that makes Christianity a branch of Judaism. Does that mean the Gentiles are converted if they believe? No – there’s no reason for them to do so. They’re a part of Israel just through faith.

Getting back to the topic, how does Judaism atone for sins? Prayer and charity. And as I pointed out, that’s not what the Bible says.

It’s recorded in the Talmud about the scarlet cloth used to tie shut the doors of the Holy of Holies during the first century. The priests knew the Yom Kippur offering was accepted when the scarlet cloth turned white.

The Talmud also says that forty years before the Temple was destroyed, the cloth stopped turning white. The Temple was destroyed in AD 70. Forty years before would be 30 AD.

Jesus Christ was crucified in 30 AD.

That means the very Yom Kippur after the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the scarlet cloth stopped changing color. The Yom Kippur offering was no longer acceptable.

That means without Jesus Christ… the Jewish people have been without a means of atoning for sins since 30 AD.

Don’t let your Rabbi think for you at this point – when on Judgment Day God asks why you did not believe, your Rabbi’s beliefs are not the ones on trial. Yours are. You’ve got to explain why you found the truth and refused it.

Tomorrow, we’re going to start looking at who Jesus is, and what are the proofs for Him? There’s a lot. I could literally post one a day for over a year.

Answering Judaism 3


We go right away to one of my primary subjects right away. How does Judaism atone for sin?

We all know how Christianity atones for sin. We are paid for by the kapparah, the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. His shed blood on the Cross paid for our sins. Since all our sins offended God, we cannot atone for them ourselves. I’m going to come back to this point.

So, Judaism teaches that we used to make offerings in the Temple. After the Temple was destroyed, we began offering sacrifices through prayer and charity.

That’s not what the Bible teaches.

There’s nothing in the Bible whatsoever about prayer and charity atoning for sins.

See, we’re quick to want to charge in and say, “Christianity blah blah blah…” but we never stopped to try to prove Rabbinic Judaism!

Now, I know what the Rabbi tried to tell me… there’s an Oral Torah. I’m going to deal with that tomorrow, but I’m going to spoil it by saying the Oral Torah first off doesn’t make logical sense, and second, contradicts the Bible.

So. Let’s move on. If you’ve paid attention when they did the Torah readings – or if you decided you were going to be a good Jew and actually try reading your Tanakh so you knew what your religion was all about – You’ll note that the Bible teaches one must have shed blood for forgiveness.

Now, J4J will try to hurriedly bring up – because they don’t want you thinking about this point for very long – that there were people in the Tanakh who prayed and were forgiven – but those people were always ones who usually were in a good relationship with God, and who made offerings.

“What about Jacob?”

Jacob our patriarch was something of a rogue – until he repented, and turned to God. Then he began offering sacrifices. This is something that Christianity does much better than Judaism – we’re the people of the Book, but they study it. When you’re studying to become a Rabbi, what do you learn? The Gemara, the Responsa, Rashi, the RaMBaM. Not the Bible.

The truth is, the average Gentile back row Baptist who gets to church right before it starts, and sneaks out the back before the altar call – they know more Bible than most Rabbis. That’s a shame. Aren’t we the “people of the Book”? Haven’t the Jewish writers always said that “we kept the Book, and the Book kept us”? Then why do the Goyim know more of it than we do?

Why? Because studying the Bible leads you to Jesus. Trust me – start reading your Tanakh. You’ll find out. I had my rabbi tell me I knew more ‘Nakh than most Rabbis. They had the Torah part, but I knew the Nakh!

Once we get to Exodus 20 – the Giving of the Law – God changes dispensations. A Dispensation is a dealing out. That’s how God deals with mankind. From Sinai until Golgotha, God dealt with mankind through the Jewish people, the peculiar people, chosen unto God. Prior to Sinai, God dealt with mankind through the enacting of governments, and kingdoms – by enabling laws that upheld men’s conscience, and kept us seeking for God.

Then we get to Abraham, who could determine the very existence of God through not only the stories he was told growing up, but by elementary logic – you know the stuff I did for the last two days.

Abraham inherited the Covenant that God made. Now, God made the covenant, meeting God in the middle. Where two men would walk between the halves of the offering to show the covenant, Abraham sat by and let God walk through all by himself. Why? He’s God. Silly question. There’s nothing God can’t do. God can do not only anything, but can do it by himself.

WE see from Job, that men by this knowledge of God automatically offered sacrifices to God. Abel did it and was accepted. Noah did it. Job did it. Abraham did it.

Then God set his covenant on Abraham, and set things in motion in which the Jewish people came out. And God led us from Egypt, and brought us to Israel. And the whole time, He was instructing us in the Torah.

11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Leviticus 17:11 (KJV)

It is the blood that makes atonement. Prayer can make you a Baal Tshuvah, repentant, leading to a change in actions – but your sins must have blood shed to remit your sins. The blood makes atonement.

now, here’s where I blow your mind – the Bible does not say that the sacrifices forgave sins. We were commanded to make offerings for our sins, and it was explained the blood made atonement. But the Bible doesn’t say that it’s the animal’s blood that makes atonement for you.

10 And Aaron shall make an atonement upon the horns of it once in a year with the blood of the sin offering of atonements: once in the year shall he make atonement upon it throughout your generations: it is most holy unto the LORD. Exodus 30:10 (KJV)

See, it doesn’t say the blood of the sin offering makes atonement – it says Aaron will make the atonement. Well, Aaron died. Who does it now?

“well, the High Priest is what the Bible’s talking about…”

Good! You learned the first lesson of types and anti-types. A type is a picture representation – the Bible speaks of Aaron, but he is the “type”. The High Priest fulfills the function of Aaron, who died. So the High priest is the anti-type.

Here it says Aaron makes the atonement WITH the blood of the sin offering. Do we still have any of that blood from that first sin offering? No?

That’s because all of the sin offerings after that are the anti-type of the first offering.

Okay, bear with me. If we need the blood to make the atonement, and the first offering was not the anti-type of that offering (Aaron was) that means we have a high priest who makes that atonement for us, with an undisclosed blood that DOES make atonement.

And if Aaron died, that means we need a High Priest who makes an atonement who does not die.

And we need a better offering, one that does not have to be made daily, but once for all. If the blood makes atonement, it’s talking about a singular event in Lev. 17:11.

See? It says “offering”, “blood”, “atonement”. Not “Offerings”, “bloods” “Atonements.”

29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: 30 For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD. 31 It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever. 32 And the priest, whom he shall anoint, and whom he shall consecrate to minister in the priest’s office in his father’s stead, shall make the atonement, and shall put on the linen clothes, even the holy garments: 33 And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation. 34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses. Leviticus 16:29-34 (KJV)

Notice this is written in the future tense. Who is this priest? And… why hasn’t this been happening for 2,000 years?

Where do we finally get all this? It’s not in the Tanakh that this event happened. But rather, that it was still to come!

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Matthew 26:28 (KJV)

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Romans 3:25 (KJV)

22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Hebrews 9:22 (KJV)

I put it to you that this atonement comes from the Blood of Jesus. Now, here’s the difficult part. If you think of Jesus as just a man, the whole thing is unsatisfied, and we’re still awaiting for an atonement.

We’re sunk. We’re lost. We’re doomed to punishment in Hell, because there’s no forgiveness for our sins.

But if Jesus Christ has always existed, then He is the propitiation for our sins.

We’ll talk more about this tomorrow.

Answering Judaism 2


As I mentioned yesterday, Jews for Judaism does seem to have answers for several of the Messianic prophecies – and usually, it’s a lame “That’s not a prophecy” excuse.

Here’s what didn’t work for me. Number one, it sounded a little too much like a 6-year old’s defense. “No, it’s not.”

Really??? That’s lame. Because I was looking right at the verses, and it sure sounded that way to me!

Oh, it works for a while, to get rid of that nagging fear, to soothe the small voice that seems to speak in our heads from time to time – “Jesus is the Messiah. Accept Him!”

And sometimes, the voice would warn us… “If you don’t accept Him, you cannot be saved from Hell.”

So, we go to our rabbis, or choke that fear down. Jews for Judaism are pretty good, but the arguments FOR Jesus can’t be overcome. Here’s why:

If Jesus Christ is the Messiah of the Jews, that makes Christianity an off-shoot of Judaism. And that means we’ve turned our back on Judaism, and the Jewish Messiah. Which oddly enough, is just what the prophets said would happen!

But the standard line for Judaism – and if some counter-missionary finds these pages, that’s the first thing they’re gonna say to me is… “you have converted to another religion despite yourself.”

That doesn’t make sense. Let’s examine that in the sense that you apply elementary logic.

  1. Proposition A: Jesus is Jewish
  2. Proposition B: Jesus is the Jewish messiah
  3. Proposition C: Christianity is the religion worshiping and following the teachings of Jesus.
  4. result: Christianity is Jewish.

Jews for Judaism can’t overcome that. The logic follows standard rules, and plays true. Their proposition is this:

  1. Proposition A: Jesus is Jewish
  2. Proposition B: Jesus is not the Jewish messiah
  3. Proposition C: Christianity is the religion worshiping and following the teachings of Jesus.
  4. result: Christianity is another religion.

That makes absolutely no sense. When Shabbetai Svi led a rebellion, when they thought he was the Messiah, did his followers cease to be Jewish?

Chabadniks. the Masheichists – when they began singing the Yechi, did that make them suddenly Gentile?

Bar Chochba… did his followers cease to be Jewish?

How does following the Jewish Messiah make me a Goy???

You can bluster all you want… but if you’re trying to say, “This Jewish guy isn’t the Messiah, and following Him makes you a Gentile…” then that’s an issue – because you’ve got to apply that to all followers of people whom you say were not the Messiah.

My contention is this – the Jewish prophets spoke of the coming Messiah. And whenever Jews sit down and study those prophecies, they come to the same, unmistakeable scary conclusion…

Jesus is the Messiah. And we, His people, rejected Him.

And you know it.

Now, here’s my point… and we’re going to be looking at the detail soon enough… There’s over 500 prophecies of the Messiah.

That’s a lot.

We’re not talking about 20. Or 30. We’re talking about more prophecies of the Messiah fulfilled than there are days in even the longest Jewish year! For the Gentile who doesn’t understand that comparison, Some Jewish years have an extra month, and there’s a couple of months that can have 29 or 30 days. When you have the year with the extra month, and with all months having 30 days… that’s a longer year.

If you had 20, or 30, you could say, “That’s chance.” If I hit the bullseye once or twice, you could say, “luck.” If I hit it every time, you have to concede I’m a good shot. So if Jesus had fulfilled lets’ say only a dozen prophecies, you can explain that away, sure, go ahead.

But when it’s FIVE HUNDRED, look, bluster all you want – you can’t explain that.

And as I go through it, on some of them I’m going to tell you some of Jews for Judaism’s responses to these prophecies – ad you’re going to read the prophecy and say, “Wow… that’s really lame.”

I’m not faulting J4J – they’re doing their best to keep Jews Jewish. Good on ya, as the Aussies say. But my contention is, and I think I proved it from a logic point of view, that Christianity is a Jewish religion, with far more validity than Orthodox Judaism. Indeed, from where I’m standing, with my eyes open and looking at it from this perspective – Jews who’ve accepted Jesus are indeed the frum, and the Misnagid Orthodox are actually the Frei!

And yeah, if you’re Beis Chabad, you’re actually closer to the truth, because you’re thinking the Rebbe was the Moshiakh, and it;s been interesting since the 90’s to see that Jewish thought concerning the Rebbe (at least among the Masheikhists) has turned to an almost Christian viewpoint. I’m saying it this way… when the Chabadniks finally have to accept that the Rebbe was not Moshiakh, it’s going to be really easy to explain who it really is – Jesus Christ.

we start tomorrow.