Answering Calvinism 5


We have examined and answered so far:

  • Not everyone who is not Calvinist is Armenian
  • There is a difference between Baptist and Armenian
  • The TULIP theology actually contradicts Scripture
  • Total Depravity actually teaches Total Inability
  • Total Inability is the key teaching of Calvinism – if Total Inability is removed, the entire Calvinism doctrine falls apart immediately.
  • Calvinism really is Augustinianism
  • There’s not a whole lot of difference between Calvinism and some Roman Catholic doctrines
  • The historic understanding of Salvation as expressed by the Early Church “Fathers” does not match Calvinism’s undertsanding
  • A person reading the Bible literally through for years without having been taught Calvinism would not arrive at an understanding of TULIP theology, thus raising grave doubts as to any claims of it being “Biblical”.
  • Total Inability is based upon Biblical half truths.
  • There are few Calvinist proof texts, and they are cited against the majority of Bible verses that prove otherwise, or consist of verses taken out of context and forced to appear as if they support Calvinism
  • The Bible clearly teaches “whosoever will…” many times.
  • The Calvinist ignores Biblical texts in favor of his dogma, thus Calvinism actually champions tradition and logic above the Bible
  • The supposed logical arguments of the Calvinist are flawed right from the beginning
  • The Calvinist accepts the verses that state “Whosoever will not” as supporting damnation for anyone who rejects Christ, but refuses to accept the verses that state “Whosoever will” as supporting salvation for anyone who accepts Christ
  • Calvinism does not give you any assurance you’re one of the elect
  • Calvinism cannot be learned purely from reading the Bible – it has to be taught.
  • Most who believe in Calvinism misunderstood what predestination was, and grasped onto Calvinism once they heard it.
  • The Bible describes the Gospel as simple, but Calvinism is extremely complicated – and therefore cannot be the Gospel

Here’s a question guaranteed to start a fight at a Calvinist convention: Get every Calvinist to state out loud the answer to this question: “What is the Gospel? How are we saved?”

It’s an important question. And depending on if you’re a 4 point, 4 1/2 point, or 5 point Calvinist, you’re going to give different answers.

The 5 point Calvinist will respond along the lines of: “Jesus Christ died for the sins of the elect, and chose us for Salvation before the foundations of the world.”

The 4 and 4 1/2 point Calvinism (The Macarthur-ite) will answer: “Yes, that’s true – but it does not take away our responsibility to respond to the Gospel.”

At that point, the Sproul-ite will immediately get in the face of the MacArthur-ite and start accusing. “Wait! Are you saying that man can frustrate the will of a Soveriegn God?”

Within two to three minutes, there should be two black eyes, a bloody nose, and possibly a loose tooth or three.

In one of Macarthur’s Q&A sessions, he had a question he answered quickly, and moved on. I think he should have answered that in some depth, and I think the very fact the question is being asked reveals something of the nature and fruit of Calvinism.

“Will God ever reject any person that tries to be saved?”

That question can only be asked in a Calvinist church. The congregation is taught routinely that one is unconditionally elected. You are predestined either for Heaven or Hell. So, if you’re one of the ones predestined to Hell, can you ever be saved?

Answer: no.

Now the achilles heel of Calvinism is exposed: Where do you read that in the Bible? Show me a verse that explicitly says that! There isn’t one. It’s derived from the fact the word “predestined” can be found a few times in the bible, and by misunderstanding what Predestination is.

Macarthur was correct, but not in his reasoning, which he did not give, if I remember right. The reasoning for a 4 1/2 point Calvinist would be, “one of the elect will eventually be moved by the Irresistable Grace to be saved. One of the non-elect will never respond, because they are corrupted by Total Inability.”

In other words, you know if you’re one of the elect, if you feel the need to be saved. The 5 point Calvinist will rest at that point, sayng, “If you’re one of the elect, there’s no need to be born again – you’re predestined.”

A lot of 5 point Calvinists are in for a rude shock about two or three seconds after death. If you aren’t born again, where do you go? If you must be born again to enter heaven, where do you go if you are not?

Hell.

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Matthew 23:13 (KJV)

The correct answer is that anyone who desires to be saved, will be saved. Any who call upon the name of the LORD will be saved.

This is the issue with Unconditional Election. You can’t be saved if you’re not one of the elect. But you can’t NOT be saved if you’re one of the elect.

Here’s the same question, flipped, that I would pose to Macarthur:

“If someone who is not one of the elect wants to be saved, and comes to God, will God reject him?”

The question would give Macarthur some turmoil, but I have enough confidence in Johnny Mac that I’m pretty sure his answer would be: “No, God will not reject someone who is not one of the elect if they want to be saved.”

And every other Calvinist would suddenly be up in arms, black eyes, bloody noses, etc.

Macarthur would rationalize this as: “It’ll never happen. If someone is not one of the elect, you’ll never want to get saved.” And again, this cannot be found in the Bible. I started this examination of Calvinism by examining the “whosoever” verses. Here’s a larger list, just in case the earlier list was in doubt.

34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. 36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. Mark 8:34-38 (KJV)

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:15-18 (KJV)

13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: 14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. John 4:13-14 (KJV)

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? John 11:25-26 (KJV)

44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 12:44-48 (KJV)

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Acts 2:21 (KJV)

43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Acts 10:43 (KJV)

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. Romans 9:33 (KJV)

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:11-13 (KJV)

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 1 John 2:23 (KJV)

1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 1 John 5:1 (KJV)

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Revelation 20:15 (KJV)

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17 (KJV)

23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Luke 9:23 (KJV)

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. John 6:51 (KJV)

17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. John 7:17 (KJV)

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. John 7:37 (KJV)

9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. John 10:9 (KJV)

26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour. John 12:26 (KJV)

47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. John 12:47 (KJV)

3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him. 1 Corinthians 8:3 (KJV)

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV)

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. Revelation 3:20 (KJV)

That’s 23 passages in support of the Baptist position. And zero in support of Unconditional election.

Here’s the truth, as stated from the Bible:

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

There. That’s the Gospel, taken directly from the Bible. I didn’t add a word to it. I just strung together about five or six verses. Actually, it would make a nice print, in some kind of wavy font, each verse in a different color! I may make a graphic of it, and anyone who desires can print it out and frame it. I’ll work on that at some point.

I also listed verses showing that if anyone does not accept the Gospel, they will pass into Hell. The use of words like”Whoever”, and “Whosoever” show that this is open to anyone. And again, the use of the words “if any” show that this is a conditional argument.

You must be born again. If you are not, you will not go into heaven. If you don’t go to heaven, where do you go? Hell.

That’s what Baptists have been teaching for two thousand years.

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Author: philipdean2013

Seminary graduate with a Ba. in Theology/Pastoral Studies, Happily married, Independent Baptist. I can't keep silent about what I see going on in Christianity any longer! Apostasy reigns around us, churches are sliding into worldiness, a whitewashed Gospel is preached everywhere... "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16 (KJV) So, I'm speaking out. ...Why aren't you???