Hovind At Berkely


Much of what happened there I covered on The New Atheism.

The thing that needs to be discussed is the hostility of the New Atheists.

Much of it reminds me of the overwhelming hostility of liberals.

liberals claim conservatives try to force everyone to believe like they do. In reality, the liberals pass laws and constantly threaten spurious lawsuits to force conservatives to act the way the liberals want.

The New Atheist is hostile. He or she demands that Christians stop being Christians. He or she demands that Christians become atheists. Or they will threaten, bluster, argue, intimidate…

Hovind provided proof prior to his seminar by citing recent online threats that were made against Hovind on an Internet forum. He actually copied quotes from the forum onto Powerpoint slides, and showed it to the audience. There was some nervous laughter as people saw the threats on the screen. It had started with a threat to shoot Hovind onstage. They attempted to cover it up and minimize it by joking about using explosives or a .50 caliber belt fed machine gun to kill Hovind. But the threat was there. I’m surprised the University did not immediately insist on armed security and metal detectors. It was most definitely a case of felony conspiracy to commit terrorism, or at LEAST Felony conspiracy to commit murder.

I’ve already given my opinion that Hovind chose to teach some things I would have left out, and left out some things that I think would have made a MAJOR difference in the outcome, things I’ve heard him teach.

the crowd in the Q&A in one or two cases completely ignored everything that was taught. When Hovind, after citing gaps in the fossil record in the seminar, mentioned that the fossil record proved nothing in the Q&A, the crowd reacted with jeering. This showed that several people were there (if not many) who had prepared questions ahead of time, imagining in the vain conceits of youth that “This will stump him!”

Had they done their homework on Hovind, many there would not have risked the humiliation of trying to engage him. The second person, Skip, was apparently a regular at Hovind seminars, and even warned everyone Hovind was not to be taken lightly.

The third person attempted to pin Hovind down that he was stating the entire university should abolish teaching evolution and instead teach Christianity. This was not Hovind’s contention, but rather, mine. I was not there, nor connected to Hovind’s ministry in any way. No doubt if I had been, the seminar would have been MUCH more hostile, I’m sure!

The student’s position apparently was that he was going to challenge Hovind that “Why should we accept Christianity over any other religion?” Hovind refused to be drawn in to this discussion, and instead reiterated he was not saying Evolution should not be taught – rather, that Hovind wanted them to stop passing lies as facts, truth or proof. Hovind also pointed out mildly that if it were an Islamic University, they would be teaching just that – Islam, and no mention whatsoever of Christian Creationism, or even evolution. Hovind did score a major point, by bringing up the question that “This is not Hovind saying what should be taught in public schools, but rather, it brings up the question of whether there should be public schools at all.” To his surprise, the students applauded! Major point conceded to Hovind, by evolutionists.

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Author: philipdean2013

Seminary graduate with a Ba. in Theology/Pastoral Studies, Happily married, Independent Baptist. I can't keep silent about what I see going on in Christianity any longer! Apostasy reigns around us, churches are sliding into worldiness, a whitewashed Gospel is preached everywhere... "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Jeremiah 6:16 (KJV) So, I'm speaking out. ...Why aren't you???